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Last year when BIAB 2019 rolled out, there was an indication that Coyote Forte Dxi would have a 64-bit version forthcoming. I know PGMusic has a relationship with Coyote Electronics, as they were able to get a 64-bit version of the the Coyote WT.
Will there actually be an update, or should I just move along?
Still waiting a year later...
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Hi John,
I purchased the Forte many years ago. Its still my favourite general midi synth. Lately, its been asking for my serial number, which I have put in many times, but it doesn't seem to recognize it. It still works, but keeps asking for serial number. Their website doesn't seem to have been updated for about 12 years. It would be great to get a 64 bit version, meanwhile I render my wav's in the 32bit, and then transfer them over to Reaper.
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john these are good questions it seems its getting harder and harder to find a SIMPLE synth to play midi here and in RB. everyone has a favorite but they all take a lot of work to properly function. personally I like TTS but hey while it works in BiaB it requires jbridge to function in RB I bought Jbridge once but lost it on a computer crash. guess I have to buy it again.
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jford; Yes I would like to have 64bit, I use Forte in RealBand and would like to have compatibility between all my apps.
the-blooze; I had that serial number problem a couple of years ago, I had to re-enter every 3 or 4 weeks for about 18 months. Partway through this time I contacted Tech Support who suggested Run as Administrator, but that didn't work. Eventually the problem went away and I assumed it had been quietly fixed by PGM in one of the Update Builds.
Rob Helms; There is a 32bit version of TTS, I use it in Realband alongside Forte.
Some years ago Music Creator 7 was going cheap so I bought it purely for the softsynth.
I'm sure somebody here has more up to date knowledge of how to get it.
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I have and use TTS-1 (both 32-bit and 64-bit), but there are some sounds that I like better in the Forte. Ultimately, I will most likely change over to instruments in Kontakt or Halion or Sampletank, or some dedicated VSTi, but for quick song creation, I like having a decent GM synth. I also use Halion Sonic in GM mode, but I have to remember to move the USB dongle if I'm working between my laptop and desktop.
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I have hail on sonic on my computer but don’t have a GM set for it. I know somewhere I have cake music creator with 32 bit tts. So frustrating. Once you get something set up something else changes. I had SampleTank 2.5 working flawlessly, and along comes BiaB with a lite version that installed and I had to start from scratch with my SampleTank setup. Finally got it right and had to switch computers. I remember buying forte DXi but that was a couple computers ago. Now I can’t find any record of it.
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If you have 32-bit TTS-1 from Cakewalk Music Creator, you should be able to also install the 64-bit version (MC has a checkbox to select either or both 32- and 64-bit) so you would then have both the 32-bit and the 64-bit TTS-1 (or just download the Cakewalk by Bandlab program to get the 64-bit TTS-1).
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John
I'm confused about your need for a 64-bit Forte? If, as you allude, you are just sketching out a tune, making a fast backing track set or practice set why does it have to be in 64-BIAB? Just use 32-bit BIAB when calling up a GM project and if you ARE using GM then you aren't needing the tired excuse that you need a large VSTi memory so you can have your 2 TB American Indian Flute sample or a 16 TB, 64-velocity levels sampled Bösendorfer.
HOWEVER, I fully agree it would be nice if PG could reach out to some vendors and come up with BOTH a 32 and 64 bit GM solution of some kind. Like Roland for their currently WAY over priced sound canvas VA; and/or Forte as you mentioned; or Bandlab to get a 32 AND 64 bit TTS-1 for sale, Band Lab has the DXi installer and they OWN the 32 bit version as well as the 64 bit one and If I can make both TTS-1 versions work with a simple rename, they can make it work with a modified installer and modified .dat file. Or reach out to IK or NI or Steinberg or UVI or ... isn't there a Canadian co. with a clever solution or one that can solve this? (and I'm a 100% Red White and Blue 'merican).
Of course PG could always try to partner with some clever HW folks and develop an external GM2/GS/XG ASIC (protects the IP sample libraries) on a USB stick.
Sadly, that probably won't happen: "RT fever" has taken over BIAB. I like RT's but still use a ton of MIDI because I have a TON of gear and a lot of VSTi and other MIDI libraries and becasue they cover way more ground. Again RT's are nice but represent a very thin horizontal slice of all possible instruments when compared against even a modest ROMPler, let alone true analog, digital, and hybrid synths.
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After reading that a 64-bit version was forthcoming, I wrote to the email address on their web page provided but never successfully received a reply.
There's been no further word about any updates at all to my knowledge.
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Larry, it's not "need" per se (as there are other options), but more desire. Some of my older files used Forte and of course sound different with another GM synth, and as you oftensay, for other reasons I won't go into here. Also the fact that (although it was some time ago) I actually laid down money to purchase Forte. And the fact the it was mentioned by PG staff that a 64-bit version was forthcoming.
But if it's not forthcoming, just say so and I'll move along.
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Copy BTW that wasn't a dig, there are a couple people here I'd never take a dig at and you are in the single digit list -  Larry
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I didn't take it as a dig; was just clarifying.
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john these are good questions it seems its getting harder and harder to find a SIMPLE synth to play midi here and in RB. everyone has a favorite but they all take a lot of work to properly function. personally I like TTS but hey while it works in BiaB it requires jbridge to function in RB I bought Jbridge once but lost it on a computer crash. guess I have to buy it again. Rob, Cakewalk by BandLab includes an add-on download of TTS-1. Since it is a 64 bit program the TTS-1 add-on is also 64 bit. You have to create a free BandLab account to use Cakewalk by BandLab. The DAW installation and activation is managed by an installation manager called BandLab Assistant. You can find out more +++ HERE +++My understanding is there is a record made when you purchase jBridge so either PG Music (if you bought it through PG Music), Jay or both have the purchase record. All you need to do is talk to PG Music Sales or send an email to Jay explaining your predicament. +++ jBridge for Windows +++
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