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Kicking a dead horse even further, if anyone is still interested in the changes to Geekbench, I located this statement from the developers of Geekbench.
There is no way to compare scores from Geekbench 5 to scores from Geekbench 4. Similarly, Geekbench 4 scores are not comparable with Geekbench 3 scores.
Each major version of Geekbench includes changes that make it more accurate and representative of real-world performance. Since Geekbench 5 measures things differently than Geekbench 4, even in workloads that both versions have, it is not possible to input scores from one version into a calculator and get the scores from another version.
I'm afraid that this does make it difficult to track the progression of your devices over many years, particularly those that you no longer have. However, Geekbench 4 will continue to be supported for the foreseeable future.
Above, I guessed that a rough Geekbench 5 score of 300 - 320 might be comparable to the score of 1500 in Geekbench 4. My guess is not supported by the explanation given by the company. We will have to wait until someone at PG Music renders an opinion.
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Thanks.
I will add that in the "requirements" page of BIAB they speak nowhere about processor capacity. Something to implement in the future so that people know in advance if their computer can properly handle the ressource used by BIAB.
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I will add that in the "requirements" page of BIAB they speak nowhere about processor capacity Wait... it IS there, "Minimum 1.0 GHz processor (2GHz+ multicore recommended)" This is just a general recommendation, and we hardly ever encounter a computer that is not capable of running Band-in-a-Box. I have an older PC with a Intel Pentium T4300 processor - turns out this is actually right next to the one being discussed in this thread (AMD A8-6410) on the Geekbench 5 benchmark page:  I ran the test and got a single core score of 261 which matches that page, whereas your score is less than what would be expected. This PC seems pretty slow (sometimes opening Windows Explorer takes a few seconds for example), but I don't experience the problems that you are reporting in Band-in-a-Box. I loaded in the demo song for _ROKAMER.STY for example, which is 5 RealTracks, 32 bars x 3 @ 120BPM, and timed how long it took playback to start after hitting 'Generate and Play'. It look just under 10 seconds, and I can double-click to start playback immediately. If you aren't abandoning the PC yet, perhaps you could start a thread in the "Tech SOS" forum .. you might find other general suggestions to tweak your CPU.
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Hi,
When I'm in the early stages of putting a song together, I use MIDI to determine the chord progression. When that's done, I then move to Realtracks and Realstyles for realism.
Noel DANG!!! I never considered this... I'm freaking stupid!!! Thanks for the idea!
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Hi,
When I'm in the early stages of putting a song together, I use MIDI to determine the chord progression. When that's done, I then move to Realtracks and Realstyles for realism.
Noel DANG!!! I never considered this... I'm freaking stupid!!! Thanks for the idea! I wouldn't call this stupidity. Instead, I'd simply call it ignorance of something you just hadn't learned yet. Even the pro BiaB users are ignorant of things they haven't learned yet. 
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That we are, and we manage to demonstrate that almost every day. 
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Agreed. I and others learn (or at the very least remember) something about the program every day.
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That we are, and we manage to demonstrate that almost every day. Matt, That is so true. I no longer feel embarrassed if I get things wrong. I've learnt that there's always something new to learn and something new to fully understand just around the corner. That's what I love most about this program... there is SO much to play around with All the best, Noel
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It bothers me when I get something wrong, for example when I say that I don't think BIAB can do something, but right away someone else knows how to do it. My memory has always been great but I'm nearly 70 so I'm not so sure anymore. I think I may have already forgotten more than most users know. This is all to say I continue to be completely amazed at the power and depth of this program. But I am more amazed at the quality and depth of those who give guidance on this forum.
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When I was using 2011 and an old XP computer exporting a realtrack so I could then import it into my DAW would take up to 10 mins. The perfect amount of time to go upstairs make a cuppa. It could be frustrating but, like others, I recall an older slower world - teaching typing skills with a MicroBee comp & DataCassette, running my 1st PC with 8meg of RAM (W95 - worked really well)and a hard drive that was less than a gig. Recording into Cakewalk with a PC that had 250meg of RAM - all of these things take time and time is relative I know. Your cheapest dig. watch could've done the computing on board for Apollo 11. Your phone - well, dick Tracy would be in heaven.
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My first scholarly publication was done on a Commodore 64. Whenever I printed out a draft, I would set the thing to print then walk to the post office to get my mail.
It was almost done when I returned.
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I had a Commodore 64 as well funny little beast. My first digital studio was a copy of cakewalk on floppy disk that only did midi. I mixed tracks and then transfer them to an old Casio 4 track cassette tape machine. Talk about slow. So when I hear folks complain that the plugin takes 30 seconds to generate 80 bars of music and that is destroying their work flow I have to hang my head and laugh.
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Hi all,
Long time no see! I just coudnt use BIAB because each thing would take 1mn or more to load. Was unusable.
So I waited a bit until I could buy a new computer and now I think I should be ok :
Geekbench 4 :
Single-Core Score : 5133
Multi-Core Score : 23690
Didnt run Geekbench 5. Is it necessary to do it ?
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from a geeky nerd old rockin muso.lol.
NO !!
before attempting to use biab to see
if your current pc is up to it.
ALWAYS enter into google search the following.
model of your processor plus cpu benchmark.net
this gives your processor a rateing at the benchmark
site.
eg "amd 64 cpu benchmark.net"
now enter "i7 4770 cpu benchmark "
notice the rateing difference " !!
i personally recommend a min rateing of 5000.
the i7 4770 is 7000.
i use reaper and biab on a refurb laptop with i5
plus ssd in it. wowser fast.
if your looking for a new computer try a REFURB.
you save a ton of bucks. with a warranty of course.
so if your in the market , enter into google
"intel i5/i7 processor ssd 8 gigs ram REFURB".
should get something around a few hundred bucks.
RB reported my laptop could do 190 traks for example.
also with ssd your boots will be fast.
all the mac users say "oh man pc is slow man ".
thats not so. i boot in 3 secs.
because it was set up right by the refurb store for me.
also i demo biab on the refurb before i buy it.
WOWSER ROCK OUT !
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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Thanks for your reply. I had to buy a new pc and since I am in France (confined) I elected to buy a brand new one.
I typed what you said and here what I found :
Average CPU Mark rating
11514
I have a laptop with i7-9750h processor, SSD drive, and 16Gb of Ram. And Latencymon est green all the way so no DPC latency.
I think I should be ok. So FINALLY now I can use BIAB!
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You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
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- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
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New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
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Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
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We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
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Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
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