I use biab 2020 in external hd with Dell Inspiron 1720 Win 7. I’d like to play my songs (accompaniment track) in a pa audio system, for gigs, via ipad connected to the mixer.
I’ve written the first song, only real tracks, 2 arrange, 6 tracks, 100 bars. I have rendered the song in wav file. I transferred the wav file to ipad via itunes with wav encoder. (no mp3 or other compressed files). So I guess there was no loss of quality.
Result. The wav file rendered volume is very low in the PC, in the ipad and in the Pa system. It appears that wav rendering greatly reduces the volume of the song.
First question: can I adjust the rendering volume without acting on the general volume of biab mixer, which is already compatible with no distortion at the most?
Second question: the piano sounds good in biab, instead it sounds distorted in the wav file. Its volume is very low in the biab mixer. I don't understand why. can someone help me? Thank you
Hi, and welcome. Getting stuff ready for playing through a PA what I do is render the tracks and put them in a DAW. In the DAW I mix the song to ensure the Volume and Tonal Balances are what I want. I also check the parts are played how I like them. Maybe move parts around the song. Lift parts and lower others to make it sound the way I want.
The final stage is played via a LUFS (Loudness Units to Full Scale) meter. This ensures the volume level is correct and consistent. It also makes sure each track is about the same level wise. That avoids the need of going for the volume knob each song.
Note: that is what I do, not all do it this way. I actually go a step further and convert to MP3 at 320Kb/s. I’m not that concerned about the minor losses after all it is going into a PA to a noisy audience that would not hear the difference.
Have fun.
Tony
HP i7-4770 16GB 1TB SSD, Win 10 Home, Focusrite 2i2 3rd Gen, Launchkey 61, Maton CW80, Telecaster, Ovation Elite TX, Yamaha Pacifica 612 BB 2022(912) RB 2022(2), CakeWalk, Reaper 6, Audacity, Melodyne 5 Editor, Izotope Music Production Suite 4.1
Also depending on the venue, PA system, music type, etc. I usually mix my music to mono. My reason is that stereo separation cam make the sound unbalanced. I don’t want the left side of the room hearing the piano, and the right side the guitar.
HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB/RB 2026, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 11 , Presonus Audiobox USB96
Valentino, Once I have the file rendered to .wav I run it through a free program called Wavepad from NCH software. In this program, I remove the count in beats and trim the end of the song and usually add a fade out in Wavepad. Then you can amplify or normalize the file to whatever level you wish. I usually normalize the file to -3db within Wavepad and save it as a .wav or .mp3 I've used this method for many years with no problems. The Wavepad sound editor is free and this is the only part of their software bundle that I use. I've tried some other features within wavepad but didn't like those. The Wavepad sound editor has worked flawlessly for me and is very simple to use. I use Band in a Box and Realband exclusively for my DAW and use Wavepad as the final amplification software. I've done over 300 songs this way so far with no problem. I usually save it to .mp3 and load them on my tablet for playing at gigs, running the tablet audio through a PA system as an accompaniment.
Also, in the mixer (if final volume is the only issue) try boosting the main output of the mixer before rendering. This may make everything render louder. Images show BiaB and RB mixer differences on where you may want to look.
Last edited by rharv; 02/10/2002:03 PM.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
I don't render at all. I sent 10 separate out to 10 channels of a hardware digital mixer. With one for voice as well. And two for harmonies and one for my bass.
Good point Rharv! I forgot to mention that when I do a Normalize in wavepad, I listen to it after the normalization to check the mix. Sometimes I need to go back and change the levels on vocals or some other part within Realband and then render the file again and re-normalize in Wavepad until you get the sound and volume that you want. It only takes a few minutes to get the mix and sound levels you need.
If in RB, do your VU Out meters in the bottom of RB look like they are making a decently loud wav file? Or, if you Open the same resulting wav file in RB does the wav display look small, or does it show nice volume?
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome Make your sound your own!
Since these files are for gigging, use your PA for mixing. You will hear a huge difference between that and studio monitors or headphones plus get you much closer to what it really sounds like. Second, I used to mix in stereo only to put the bass and drums on the L channel and everything else on the R. This gave some control of the levels in a mono PA. The L and R went into two separate channels with individual tone controls. Bass can be boomy or buried depending on the venue so you can EQ that and the drums separate from the R channel. If you want complete control then you have to use a more expensive multichannel interface going into a multichannel mixer like Silvertones does. No rendering then, he plays the songs live from Real Band.
PowerTracks 2026 is here—bringing powerful new enhancements designed to make your production workflow faster, smoother, and more intuitive than ever.
The enhanced Mixer now shows Track Type and Instrument icons for instant track recognition, while a new grid option simplifies editing views. Non-floating windows adopt a modern title bar style, replacing the legacy blue bar.
The Master Volume is now applied at the end of the audio chain for consistent levels and full-signal master effects.
Tablature now includes a “Save bends when saving XML” option for improved compatibility with PG Music tools. Plus, you can instantly match all track heights with a simple Ctrl-release after resizing, and Add2 chords from MGU/SGU files are now fully supported... and more!
Get started today—first-time packages start at just $49.
Already using PowerTracks Pro Audio? Upgrade for as little as $29 and enjoy the latest improvements!
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows Special Offers End Tomorrow (January 15th, 2026) at 11:59 PM PST!
Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PST on Thursday, January 15, 2026!
We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!
Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.
Another exciting new addition is the new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. You can view the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to process an entire track or focus on specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.
There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Windows to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!
Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.
If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!
Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® Special Offers Extended Until January 15, 2026!
Good news! You still have time to upgrade to the latest version of Band-in-a-Box® for Windows® and save. Our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® special now runs through January 15, 2025!
We've packed Band-in-a-Box® 2026 with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can process an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!
There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.
When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PST on January 15th, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® today! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: The Newly Designed Piano Roll Window
In this video, we explore the updated Piano Roll, complete with a modernized look and exciting new features. You’ll see new filtering options that make it easy to focus on specific note groups, smoother and more intuitive note entry and editing, and enhanced options for zooming, looping, and more.
Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
One of our representatives will be happy to help you over the phone. Our hours of operation are from
6:00AM to 6:00PM PST (GMT -8) Monday thru Friday, and 8:00AM to 4:00PM PST Saturday. We are closed Sunday. You can also send us your questions via email.
One of our representatives will be happy to help you on our Live Chat or by email. Our hours of operation are from
6:00AM to 6:00PM PST (GMT -8) Monday thru Friday; 8:00AM to 4:00PM PST (GMT -8) Saturday; Closed Sunday.
Dansk
Deutsch - Windows
Español
Français - Windows
Italiano - Windows
Nederlands
Polski
Português
Svenskt
русский
Japanese
Simplified Chinese
Traditional Chinese
Korean