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now done several songs.
i couldnt do any better if i used a big studio ;like i used to.
wowser !!!!!!!
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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justanoldmuso,
Welcome to the forum and to the program!
Glad you are enjoying the program. It's easy to lose sight of how amazing the program capability is once you get use to using it. It never hurts to have a refresher course from someone new to the program.
Thanks for sharing your enthusiasm with us. Your post made me smile.
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now done several songs.
i couldnt do any better if i used a big studio ;like i used to.
wowser !!!!!!! Couldn't agree more!!!!!! Have fun.
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I'm really glad that this is working out for you. You are not far wrong to compare the quality of the delivery to that of a studio and session musicians. That's exactly what the system can provide.
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i'll share , cos newbies might find it interesting.
as follows.
1. make sure bpm in daw eg reaps/cub/cake/tools
matches bpm in biab.
2. have a unique folder for each new song that
contains all your biab files and your daw
recorded tracks.
ie a central repository for the song.
instead of spreading traks across many folders.
makes back ups a breeze.
i back up to ssd's and pen drives also stored
offsite.
BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS.
3.THERE IS A FEATURE IN BIAB THAT I CALL
"THE WORLDS BEST SONGWRITING FEATURE".
let me illustrate.
youve transferred your basic bed tracks from biab to your daw
for the first time.
i bet a lot of people stop there and continue in the daw.
but N OOOOO !! go back into the stylepicker, click on a different
style USEING YOUR CURRENT CHORDS YOU ARE USEING,
now !! NOTICE THE STYLEPICKER BUTTON THAT IS ABOVE THE
GREEN PLAY BUTTON ?? it just says "play". but i think should be called
the best darn songwriting feature EVER.
this simple button will now play any new style youve selected
USEING YOUR CURRENT SONG CHORD STRUCTURE.
thus you can obtain a slew / zillions of new feels and instruments etc
and thus transfer over to the daw the ones you like for your song.
you must be patient of course. i spend several hours finding those
sound pictures i like from the zillions of styles and auditioning
to find what fits.
thus that little play button should be called the darn tooting best
feature for creating songs. wowser.
pg should include this as a huge block print note with each
item shipped to a user imho. cos a new user might not
notice it , and do the basic one pass of bed traks into the daw.
peace out.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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0 i'll share , cos newbies might find it interesting.
as follows.
1. make sure bpm in daw eg reaps/cub/cake/tools
matches bpm in biab.
2. have a unique folder for each new song that
contains all your biab files and your daw
recorded tracks.
ie a central repository for the song.
instead of spreading traks across many folders.
makes back ups a breeze.
i back up to ssd's and pen drives also stored
offsite.
BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS.
3.THERE IS A FEATURE IN BIAB THAT I CALL
"THE WORLDS BEST SONGWRITING FEATURE".
let me illustrate.
youve transferred your basic bed tracks from biab to your daw
for the first time.
i bet a lot of people stop there and continue in the daw.
but N OOOOO !! go back into the stylepicker, click on a different
style USEING YOUR CURRENT CHORDS YOU ARE USEING,
now !! NOTICE THE STYLEPICKER BUTTON THAT IS ABOVE THE
GREEN PLAY BUTTON ?? it just says "play". but i think should be called
the best darn songwriting feature EVER.
this simple button will now play any new style youve selected
USEING YOUR CURRENT SONG CHORD STRUCTURE.
thus you can obtain a slew / zillions of new feels and instruments etc
and thus transfer over to the daw the ones you like for your song.
you must be patient of course. i spend several hours finding those
sound pictures i like from the zillions of styles and auditioning
to find what fits.
thus that little play button should be called the darn tooting best
feature for creating songs. wowser.
pg should include this as a huge block print note with each
item shipped to a user imho. cos a new user might not
notice it , and do the basic one pass of bed traks into the daw.
peace out.
Yep! Some of the best arrangements for backings for my solo guitar have come from using Style picker and wondering "what will my chords sound like with this Style".
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haveing a howl with 2020.
now done 5 songs.
went thru all 5 thousand styles.
the stylepicker je taime.
if i want bells or strumming or rock
whatever i get those styles just put the word
in stylepicker. yowser.
so i can embellish a song and add overdubs after
transferring bed tracks to reaps.
a question where can i upload the songs to
where i wont get charged so as i can post the links
on the appropo pg user showcase songs forum so people
can tell me if junk ideas or not. lol.
the one thing i would like to see is more choir/
female back up singers in the pop/rock styles.
also ive never been a jazzer (rock songwriter maniac here lol)
but ive started to really dig some of the more poppier
jazz styles.
wowser. happy song makeing.
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 03/25/20 03:51 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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Now that you have the basics out of the way...
Search the Stylepicker and filter for Medleys
Medleys are PG Music Styles that feature multiple instruments on a track that change every 2,4,8 bars or with every part marker change if you set them to.
Audition a few to get a feel for what this feature can do.
You can easily make your own Medley Tracks and manually program them to either change instruments as the PG Music Styles do or they can be programmed to play simultaneously.
Each Channel in the BIAB Chord Page Mixer can accommodate up to 10 instruments.
This literally means a single BIAB song with 7 channels can contain up to 70 instruments programmed so some tracks play interchangeably and other channels play the instruments simultaneously all in a single generation to a rendered audio file.
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i'm posting this follow up to help anyone new.
its a ton of work , but i feel very usefull in
organising ones approach to each new song.
step 1. i use a lined excercise pad to analyse
with comments on every different instrument in
biab. with its id.
step 2. each pad page has a seperate instrument.
eg flute or piano or whatever.
(in some cases eg pianos or guitars you will need
multiple pages whereas washboard just a couple
of lines. so maybe a misc page for washboard
and others like koto etc.).
please note the real tracks library shows all the
various instrument names.
anyhoo back to the lined pad.
step 3. for each page of instruments i draw a vertical
line down the middle with two headings.
instrument id (eg 763 clarinet) and comments.
(eg ok /vnice/wowser/standout whatever noting the
tempo. i DO NOT observe ONLY biab recommendations
from pickers, cos ive found this my own method.)
so you end up with a ton of pages of instruments
with comments. laborious but highly worth it
listening to each instrument/id and commenting
both in solo and with band example.
step 4. thusly lol, when i approach a new song i get out
the trusty lined pad and flip through it to help me consider
my approach to the song.
lol its sorta like interviewing a lot of session musicians.
to see which ones can i use to make this song the very best ??.
some might say well thats a TON OF WORK. phht !
i'm sorry but songs ARE WORK. a ton of work.
hours and hours of trying different things.
ya gotta put in the creative time.
thats how breakthroughs work.
i urge everyone to try this method cos this way i dont miss
usefull instruments unlike useing just the pickers.
and i get lots of ideas like hmm what is a charango ?
and what can i do with it ??
hope this helps someone.
create your own lined pad of "song backing musicians".
its also a great learning excercise for example ,
wow could that flugelhorn be usefull as an intro to my new
metal rock song lol. or that harp be a nice intro before
the whole rock band blasts into action ?
i'm haveing a ball.
toodles and peace.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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That's a very methodical and practical way to operate.
Yes, as you have stated, it involves some background work, but the results of being able to find exactly what you need every time you need them are quite beneficial.
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Nice detail on your workflow. I detail most of my processes similarly but use an Excel spreadsheet to keep all my notes and settings in per each song I've worked. I just add a new tab to the spreadsheet for each new category of crap I need to add.
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>bowled over by 2020
now done several songs.
i couldnt do any better if i used a big studio ;like i used to.
wowser !!!!!!!
Thanks, and much appreciated!
Have Fun!
Peter Gannon
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just one critique.
i find i am spoilt for certain real traks like
pianos/organs/geetars/sax etc etc but would like more
real traks for other reeds and orchestral instruments.
its nice to see harps for example. loverly.
ie need more orchestral instruments like this.
so dont have to fork out for pricey orchestral libs
to augment RT's.
i'm just a poor muso lol.
ps.thnks mr pg.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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just one critique.
i find i am spoilt for certain real traks like
pianos/organs/geetars/sax etc etc but would like more
real traks for other reeds and orchestral instruments.
its nice to see harps for example. loverly.
ie need more orchestral instruments like this.
so dont have to fork out for pricey orchestral libs
to augment RT's.
i'm just a poor muso lol.
ps.thnks mr pg.
You should put this in the wish list forum.
I'm in a fitness protection program. I'm been hiding from exercise.
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Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: The Newly Designed Piano Roll Window
In this video, we explore the updated Piano Roll, complete with a modernized look and exciting new features. You’ll see new filtering options that make it easy to focus on specific note groups, smoother and more intuitive note entry and editing, and enhanced options for zooming, looping, and more.
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Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe
This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.
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Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®
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These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
- MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
- Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
- Playable RealTracks Set 5
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- SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
- Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)
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- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
- Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
- Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
- RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
- SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)
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Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!
Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
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Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!
Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.
Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!
Special offers until December 31st, 2025!
All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
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