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Originally Posted By: Dzjang
Hi, dragging and dropping is nice, but, since BIAB gives you the chords and all, the melody... I also prefer to use band in a box directly.

My setup for playing and practicing is:
*download loopbe, freely available,
*disable vst in band in a box,
*in midi options disable all send messages (patch messages, panning...)
*in preferences-overrides, disable all sends
*assign midi out to loopbe
*start Kontakt, choose loopbe midi in
*pick the correct channels for each instrument.

Then: enjoy the great sounds of Kontakt libraries. If you wish, you can use UVI or other vsts, even synthfont as your preferred synth.

If I want to record, I use no midi out and load Kontakt as a VST using Default synth and loading my patches in Kontakt
If you disable all sends it keeps your setup intact (if you always use the same drum n bass n piano

You can save songs with vst patches if you switch instruments.

Hope this helps you
This is really interesting...so you are running Kontakt standalone to play back music from within BIAB, and then using Kotakt as a VST within BIAB for recording? None of this with a DAW? (I am trying to get the overall picture clear before diving into the details)

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Glenn, this may work for you. Although I do not have to do this as using Pipline's utility I can bring the chords into Studio One Pro I just experimented and found that this works, at least for me.
Mario, tell me how Pipeline works...I don't really know Studio One, but anything that brings chords into a DAW sounds interesting. I had a starter copy of Studio One once, but didn't see a major advantage over Mixcraft.


Pipeline has written a number of programs, one that will transfer BiaB chords to Studio One. He has also written similar programs for other DAWs. The Studio One program is here:
https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=544133#Post544133


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Get your BiaB song as you want using the included GM. Using the drag and drop bring the tracks into your DAW and assign your sounds to those tracks. Now in your DAW open the BiaB VSTi and load your song into it. Now you can see your chord sheet and it will follow your DAW, thus you can see what measure you are on and what chord is assigned to that measure. The nice thing is that the BiaB VSTi is scalable so you can make it a large as your monitor if you wish. Using this method you can use the better sounds in your DAW, record your vocals in your DAW, while you view the BiaB measure and chords.
Yes, interesting, thank you. I really haven't given the BIAB VST a fair trial...since on a track, in my DAW, it has the same GM sounds. Offhand, I wonder if that is any different than simply leaving BIAB up in a window on my second monitor.


By using the VSTi your tempo, measures, and chords will sync with your DAW. Having the BiaB program run on a separate monitor will not stay in sync. You may be able to place the VSTi on your second monitor; I only have one monitor so I can not check that.

You will hear your better sounds in your DAW and not the GM sounds from the VSTi. At least that is what happens here.


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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Coyote Forte is a decent sounding relatively inexpensive software GM MIDI synth. One downside: you have to run the 32-bit version of BIAB. As far as I know, you won't lose anything.

https://www.pgmusic.com/coyotefortedxi.htm

You've already heard the demos on Dare to Compare.
Matt, I tried that out this afternoon...spent most of the time figuring out how it worked in BIAB. Much better sound. I really appreciate you nudging me in that direction. I think that takes care of the short term problem, using the 32-bit software.

Matt, with the Integra 7, are you using this in a performance environment, or directly for composition, or integrated with a DAW?

Thanks again for the help.

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I’m not a keyboard player so I do not use it in performance. I use it in BIAB and a DAW, plus my music notation programs.

I love the convenience of a hardware MIDI synth (except for rendering, which requires playback in real time). But my Roland unit is old, and overkill. If I had to start over, I would go the software route.


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Hey Glenn,

I do exactly what you derived.
*Playing? Using Kontakt as standalone by means of loopbe.
*Recording: kontakt as default synth as vst in Biab

It’s the least troublesome way for me, without much hassle. And it works.

There are such nice libraries around the web. I don’t buy the real expensive ones, but some are worth their weight in gold. For acoustic drums the Abbey Road drums must be the most beautiful and flexible ones around. And you can pick an instrument for every drum note, so you have flexible mapping.

Have fun playing.


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Originally Posted By: MarioD

Another great sounding program is EastWest Play:

http://www.soundsonline.com/

This has great sounds but it is also very expensive, more so the the above mentioned programs.
Mario, I am seeing ads for the whole EastWest library, the Composer Cloud X, for $199/year.



Is this the library you are talking about? I realize you don't own anything when you do this, but do you think this is a good price? It seems so to me.

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I read that add as $199 is the introductory one year price. The real price is $360 a year.

As I say previously "If so here is what I would do. Forget about changing sounds in BiaB as you are working with the same low end GM sounds. Drag and drop the BiaB MIDI tracks to Mixcraft and learn how to assign your Kontakt player to each and every track. For now add a different Kontakt player to each track. Then assign different sounds to each track via the player. It isn't that hard. If you are having difficulties let me know and I will DL the Mixcraft demo and try it myself; or maybe some here who uses Mixcraft can help."

I would do this prior to purchasing anything else. Once you get this concept down the explore other avenues. Personally for you I think Kontakt is a much better purchase then EastWest; but wait for the full Kontakt to go on sale if you want/need it for some presets. Kontakt has a lot of third party presets available, even for the player. This should satisfy your needs for many years, at least it has mine. Kontakt, a few specialized VSTis, and a number of free VSTis are my main MIDI sound sources. I do have EastWest's Symphonic Choirs that I occasionally use but now Kontakt has some choirs that are as good as if not better now. YMMV


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I read that add as $199 is the introductory one year price. The real price is $360 a year.
Good to know, I missed that.

Originally Posted By: MarioD
As I say previously "If so here is what I would do. Forget about changing sounds in BiaB as you are working with the same low end GM sounds. Drag and drop the BiaB MIDI tracks to Mixcraft and learn how to assign your Kontakt player to each and every track. For now add a different Kontakt player to each track. Then assign different sounds to each track via the player.
I don't want you to think I ignored you. I heard you and I tried it with the Kontakt 5 player. Having a Kontakt player open on each track is very awkward; the windows won't minimize. I have a relatively new system built by a tech guy, solid-state drives, and loading and unloading instruments to try them out got very slow. It worked, but you had to be patient.

Instrument quality was very good on what I loaded, but the factory instrument selection is sparse. No piano for instance, no drum kit with brushes, and for drums it looked like you were supposed to split the track, with each drum part on a separate track. At any rate, standard mapping didn't work.

Perhaps you can DM me the name of those free quality VSTs that you like. I only mentioned EastWest because you mentioned it and I saw the ad.

I am just moving over a project from BIAB with bass, drums, piano, strings and French Horn. I can use the Chris Hein Session Horns package and substitute something for the French Horns, as I don't have any orchestral stuff. I could use some strings;) if you have any ideas.

I am also going to look at migrating to Studio One, when I finish this project and have some time to investigate. There are some high-end features in the Pro version that look appealing.

Thanks for your help.

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re:Mixcraft

Maybe I misunderstood your concern with respect to Mixcraft and Kontakt or other VSTi GUIs, if so ignore my little "how to:"

Load Kontakt on the track, pick sound/instrument (set other desired parameters as well, channel, port, reverb, ...) then close it for that track if its in your visual road. But Note, that DOES NOT delete or unload Kontakt on that track, it just closes the Kontakt GUI for that track.

If you need to, or want, to see the Kontakt GUI (any VSTi GUI) on a track just right click on the little keyboard Icon on the far left of track screen.

Good Luck
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Originally Posted By: Tiger
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I don't want you to think I ignored you. I heard you and I tried it with the Kontakt 5 player. Having a Kontakt player open on each track is very awkward; the windows won't minimize. I have a relatively new system built by a tech guy, solid-state drives, and loading and unloading instruments to try them out got very slow. It worked, but you had to be patient.


Larry has shown you how to use Kontakt in Mixcraft. That process is the same as in Studio One. The fastest way to load sounds into Kontakt is to have two drives. One drive to hold you programs like your DAW, Kontakt, etc and the other for the presets/sounds.If Kontakt or any other program that loads presets and the presets are on one drive the process can be slowed down. I have my presets on a HD but I'm saving for a SSD. My programs are on a SSD. Also how much ram do you have? Programs like Kontakt can require a lot of ram.

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Instrument quality was very good on what I loaded, but the factory instrument selection is sparse. No piano for instance, no drum kit with brushes, and for drums it looked like you were supposed to split the track, with each drum part on a separate track. At any rate, standard mapping didn't work.


I don't know what comes with the player as far as sounds. I'm sure it is just a sampling of what is available in the full version. You can split the drum track into individual tracks but you will need a Kontakt on each track, so lets just forget about that for now. My full version of Kontakt drums does use the standard GM drum mapping so I would expect the player to have the same.

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Perhaps you can DM me the name of those free quality VSTs that you like. I only mentioned EastWest because you mentioned it and I saw the ad.

I am just moving over a project from BIAB with bass, drums, piano, strings and French Horn. I can use the Chris Hein Session Horns package and substitute something for the French Horns, as I don't have any orchestral stuff. I could use some strings;) if you have any ideas.


Here are some free VSTis. Just google free VSTi to find more"
https://techraver.com/free-drum-vst-plugins/

https://thehomerecordings.com/free-orchestral-vst/

https://soundtips.net/piano-vst/

Note that I do not have any experience with many of these VSTis


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I am also going to look at migrating to Studio One, when I finish this project and have some time to investigate. There are some high-end features in the Pro version that look appealing.

Thanks for your help.

Glenn


Why change DAWs if you are happy with Mixcraft?


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Just my 50 cents here...

There is an older Kontakt library that is little known, but has a very decent sound and contains all the bread and butter sounds you need. Vir2.com has the vi.one.

It is an older library, but still, a hefty 21 gb of samples. Pianos, basses are very good, the drums are really good. In comparison to the Kontakt factory library or JABB3 from Garritan, it is way better.

If you like trumpets and saxophones, vi.one has got some nice samples right there.

Following this discussion, I realized why I chose to play guitar and piano with band in a box, using only the midi bass and drums. I only pick styles with acoustic bass and brush drums, or I tweaked styles and made my own.

This way I can “jukebox” a whole song folder (standards, modern jazz...) without once having to change instruments. I can play a whole evening without any hassle or loading or unloading samples. Is nice! This way I have fun playing, like with a band. smile wasn’t that the whole purpose of Band in a Box?

Have fun playing.


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Load Kontakt on the track, pick sound/instrument (set other desired parameters as well, channel, port, reverb, ...) then close it for that track if its in your visual road. But Note, that DOES NOT delete or unload Kontakt on that track, it just closes the Kontakt GUI for that track.
Larry, thanks, I did know that and shouldn't have complained, or just complained more clearly wink. I was having trouble getting the Kontakt tracks to play. I could play from my Midi keyboard to the Kontakt instrument on any track, but when I pressed Play, for the track or the piece, it wasn't playing the MIDI track...just silence. So I was leaving the Kontakt windows open, going back and forth, trying things...

The problem was solved by setting the Kontakt player to "Omni", rather than a particular channel. I am not sure where in Mixcraft it specifies the channel/port it is sending info to the Kontakt player. It apparently isn't using the Port A/Channel 1 that seems to be the Kontakt default. (The input channel for MIDI devices is right there on the track, and I have that set to All.)

At some point, I will have to figure out how Mixcraft uses channels/ports to talk to the Player, but for right now I have put that aside in favour of actually working on music. Let me know if you know anything about that setting.

Thanks again!
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Hi Glen,

A couple of things, one, as Dzjang indicated the vi.one is a good sounding set and I think it is included in one of the lists I sent. How it sounds when compared to other sound sets is a personal thing.

If Kontakt works in Omni but not in Port A/Channel 1 then your MIDI keyboard controller is not set to channel 1. Check your keyboard manual, set the output to channel 1, and all will be fine.


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Hi Glen,

If Kontakt works in Omni but not in Port A/Channel 1 then your MIDI keyboard controller is not set to channel 1. Check your keyboard manual, set the output to channel 1, and all will be fine.
After loading Kontakt on the track, keys pressed on the keyboard played in Kontakt, so I think the midi keyboard is not the problem. It was when I played a clip of midi notes from the DAW (an imported clip) that nothing sounded in Kontakt.

Sorry if that wasn't clear.

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Hi Glen,

If Kontakt works in Omni but not in Port A/Channel 1 then your MIDI keyboard controller is not set to channel 1. Check your keyboard manual, set the output to channel 1, and all will be fine.
After loading Kontakt on the track, keys pressed on the keyboard played in Kontakt, so I think the midi keyboard is not the problem. It was when I played a clip of midi notes from the DAW (an imported clip) that nothing sounded in Kontakt.

Sorry if that wasn't clear.

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Then make sure that your DAW's MIDI track output is set to channel one. For any MIDI VSTi to sound, either from a keyboard or a MIDI track, the channels must match.


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You probably should watch this video all the way through

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zFecOaD4CU

Forget that he's using Ableton - MIDI is MIDI and a DAW is (usually) a DAW well that's essentially true. Usually just things like controls in different places and GUI's laid out differently (e.g., US cars with controls on left versus the backwards grin British cars with controls on right because they drive on wrong side of the "track" again to all my FIVE EYES friends grin )

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Hi Glenn,

Welcome to the forum and to Band-in-a-Box. There are two midi sounds you may want to consider. First is the TTS-1 virtual sound module from Cakewalk by BandLab and second is the Timbres Of Heaven virtual instruments. Both have the advantages of sounding good and are available for free.

The TTS-1 is 100percent general midi compatible so whatever midi instrument Band-in-a-Box selects the sound module will playback. The sound module can playback up to 16 instruments at the same time. The instruments sound about as good, or a little better, than the Coyote Forte instruments. TTS-1 was one of the sound modules used in the PG Music comparison. +++ HERE +++ is a recommendation from PG Music's leader, Peter Gannon. The downsides are only the 64 bit TTS-1 is available and you must install the free Windows DAW, Cakewalk by BandLab. Another plus is you also receive the Studio Instruments VST suite of strings, electric piano, electric bass and drums.

+++ Timbres Of Heaven +++ is a gm compatible Soundfont. The Soundfont is a large (about 256 MB) set of instrument patches that can be loaded and played in any Soundfont sound module including Sforzando and Synthfont. The Soundfont was developed by Don Allen to provide high quality playback of midi Karaoke and gaming files.


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Just my 50 cents here...

There is an older Kontakt library that is little known, but has a very decent sound and contains all the bread and butter sounds you need. Vir2.com has the vi.one.

It is an older library, but still, a hefty 21 gb of samples. Pianos, basses are very good, the drums are really good. In comparison to the Kontakt factory library or JABB3 from Garritan, it is way better.


Thanks for this it might be just what I need. At US$99 it seems a fair price. I’m halfway through the download. This should keep me busy in confinement.

Thanks and keep well all

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Just my 50 cents here...

There is an older Kontakt library that is little known, but has a very decent sound and contains all the bread and butter sounds you need. Vir2.com has the vi.one.

It is an older library, but still, a hefty 21 gb of samples. Pianos, basses are very good, the drums are really good. In comparison to the Kontakt factory library or JABB3 from Garritan, it is way better.


Thanks for this it might be just what I need. At US$99 it seems a fair price. I’m halfway through the download. This should keep me busy in confinement.

Thanks and keep well all

Tony
Tony, let us know how you like it. I am very interested, but don't want to get distracted while trying to finish a project right now. Would appreciate your thoughts after using it a bit.

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Well, there are many people looking for better ways to handle MIDI instruments. Kontakt is fairly expensive. Kontakt Player is free but it is very much more restrictive and often good Kontakt Libraries cannot be used with Kontakt Player or are more expensive than the full Kontakt version.

A couple of weeks ago I mentioned some free libraries for Sforzando that were ok but really require a little More understanding to work effectively. (Look up VSCO2 They have some ok free SFZ libraries that can be used in Sforzando)

Ok so back to VI.ONE. It took a little while for me to get it installed and registered (had I followed the instructions it would have been seconds). There are an unbelievable amount of different Sounds available. Some are really good. I decided to change a MIDI song that I did years ago using TTS1 to use Kontakt and the VI.ONE libraries. Some bits were better others maybe not so but I still need to do more playing.

Am I disappointed I spent the US$99 absolutely not. This is giving me a heap of new choices.

There you go, long winded but that is what I found going through the process. (Being basically confined to my unit has given me even more time than usual).


Keep well all

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This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.

Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles

Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)

And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.

You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.

Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!

The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!

Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!

With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!

These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!

This Free Bonus PAK includes:

  • The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK: -For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles. -For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles. -For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
  • Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
  • Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
  • Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
  • Playable RealTracks Set 4
  • RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
  • SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
  • 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.

Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:

  • 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
  • FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
  • Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
  • Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
  • Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
  • RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe

Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!

New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!

Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!

We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!

We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!

If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!

Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!

Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!

We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!

We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!

If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!

Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

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