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What would you call this chord? #595296 05/02/20 08:18 AM Songwriting
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OP Icelander Veteran Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,786 Iceland	Ok, I could be asking in the wrong foru but this seemed like a best fit, so here goes: I accidentally hit the wrong note in theBig Piano interface, only to really like what I got, but I haven't got a clue what the resulting chord is called: C-Eb-Gb-B where the C note is the root. p.s. And before you ask, I no longer have any external thing to make this chord on for the straight forward "Play Current Chord" method, so I haven't found any way to actually enter this chord into the Chord Sheet (since I don't have a name for it!). Just because you can, doesn't mean you should! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BBox 2022 Audiophile, Mac Pro Intel, OSX 10.6.8, 800x600 (TV VGA)

Re: What would you call this chord? Icelander #595301 05/02/20 08:45 AM Songwriting
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sixchannel Veteran Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,250 WEST MIDLANDS, UK	If we were friends I'd call it 'mate'. Otherwise - Cmm7b5 Fun chord on a guitar - Not! Bests Ian Old Guys Rule.The older I get,the better I was! BB2023 ULTRA, 1013, Win 7 and 10 ALL TRACKS - https://app.box.com/s/501rnzrbadng1elvi45hbf7y08kl5oxp SOUNDCLOUD-tracks using BB- http://soundcloud.com/sixchannel Videos- https://youtube.com/user/Sixchannel1

Re: What would you call this chord? Icelander #595303 05/02/20 08:55 AM Songwriting
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OP Icelander Veteran Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,786 Iceland	Very good, though that wouldn't fly inside BBox when I tried just now, nor would my own wacky "CdimMaj7" suggestion... so I guess this one is not a "fun" one for the program either, much like with your guitar Last edited by Icelander; 05/02/20 08:56 AM. Reason: Correcting mistakes Just because you can, doesn't mean you should! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BBox 2022 Audiophile, Mac Pro Intel, OSX 10.6.8, 800x600 (TV VGA)

Re: What would you call this chord? Icelander #595306 05/02/20 09:05 AM Songwriting
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floyd jane Veteran Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 12,772 Florida	B/C ...might give you the sound you are looking for - if BIAB will play that... 150+ Songs produced using BIAB RealTracks And 50 more... and some more...

Re: What would you call this chord? Icelander #595307 05/02/20 09:33 AM Songwriting
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OP Icelander Veteran Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,786 Iceland	Ah yes, the trusty "root note" trick, of course! Interestingly, I've just discovered that (at least for midi) it will not play a slash note on the endings ... something for PG to look into. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BBox 2022 Audiophile, Mac Pro Intel, OSX 10.6.8, 800x600 (TV VGA)

Re: What would you call this chord? Icelander #595308 05/02/20 09:39 AM Songwriting
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 24,228 Hamlin NY	Or Cdim/B! Or B(b9)! Last edited by MarioD; 05/02/20 09:39 AM. My boss calls me "the computer". Nothing to do with intelligence. I go to sleep if left unattended for 15 minutes. 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: What would you call this chord? Icelander #595310 05/02/20 09:51 AM Songwriting
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OP Icelander Veteran Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,786 Iceland	The root note would be wrong in the latter of those, Mario, plus I don't think BBox accepts a flat9 without a 7th of some sort. EDIT: And the first suggestion, while a seemingly simple one, it's also not with the intended root (now that I had another look at it), sorry Last edited by Icelander; 05/02/20 11:52 AM. Reason: Correcting mistakes Just because you can, doesn't mean you should! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BBox 2022 Audiophile, Mac Pro Intel, OSX 10.6.8, 800x600 (TV VGA)

Re: What would you call this chord? Icelander #595331 05/02/20 01:39 PM Songwriting
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,752 Wauconda	Played in that inversion C-Eb-Gb-B on piano is a BMajb9 BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.

Re: What would you call this chord? DrDan #595333 05/02/20 02:07 PM Songwriting
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OP Icelander Veteran Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,786 Iceland	Originally Posted By: MusicStudent Played in that inversion C-Eb-Gb-B on piano is a BMajb9 Which is why I made a point of specifying the intended root note as a vital part of the definition. I am thus essentially asking what would you call this C chord... to which my own proposed CdimMaj7 (or the more obscure CmMaj7b5 suggestion) would fit the bill the most of the above. It's just that BBox has apparently never heard of it. p.s. It's actually never heard of of some quite more straight forward ones either, I might add, such as Cm7b9 to pick just one off the top of my head... Just because you can, doesn't mean you should! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BBox 2022 Audiophile, Mac Pro Intel, OSX 10.6.8, 800x600 (TV VGA)

Re: What would you call this chord? Icelander #595337 05/02/20 02:21 PM Songwriting
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DrDan Veteran Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 12,752 Wauconda	Ya, this seems to be one of those times it becomes evident that BIAB is not the tool to use if you need to define voicing of a chord. So some midi workaround with freezing the track and then editing in the Piano roll would be needed. BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.

Re: What would you call this chord? Icelander #595403 05/03/20 01:48 AM Songwriting
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MarioD Veteran Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 24,228 Hamlin NY	Originally Posted By: Icelander Originally Posted By: MusicStudent Played in that inversion C-Eb-Gb-B on piano is a BMajb9 Which is why I made a point of specifying the intended root note as a vital part of the definition. I am thus essentially asking what would you call this C chord... to which my own proposed CdimMaj7 (or the more obscure CmMaj7b5 suggestion) would fit the bill the most of the above. It's just that BBox has apparently never heard of it. p.s. It's actually never heard of of some quite more straight forward ones either, I might add, such as Cm7b9 to pick just one off the top of my head... There is a chord called Cdim(Maj7) so your proposed chord is real: https://www.scales-chords.com/chord/piano/Cdim(maj7) My boss calls me "the computer". Nothing to do with intelligence. I go to sleep if left unattended for 15 minutes. 64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware

Re: What would you call this chord? Icelander #595470 05/03/20 05:09 AM Songwriting
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Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,960 Winston Salem, NC USA	Eddie, I used PG Music's +++ Piano Chord Dictionary +++ and obtained the results shown below. Based on those results the most likely name is B7b9. Note the Gb was changed to F# since the dictionary does not accept Gb in this instance. I hope this is helpful. Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in) Clipboard01.jpg (103.19 KB, 69 downloads) PG Music Piano Chord Dictionary results for C Eb F# B with C root. Jim Fogle - 2026 BiaB (Build 1220) RB (Build 7) - Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: What would you call this chord? DrDan #595475 05/03/20 05:53 AM Songwriting
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OP Icelander Veteran Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,786 Iceland	Originally Posted By: MusicStudent Ya, this seems to be one of those times it becomes evident that BIAB is not the tool to use if you need to define voicing of a chord. So some midi workaround with freezing the track and then editing in the Piano roll would be needed. Indeed, but obviously provided that one is going by midi in the first place! That particular issue becomes all the more pronounced when it's Realtracks Just because you can, doesn't mean you should! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BBox 2022 Audiophile, Mac Pro Intel, OSX 10.6.8, 800x600 (TV VGA)

Re: What would you call this chord? MarioD #595476 05/03/20 05:59 AM Songwriting
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OP Icelander Veteran Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,786 Iceland	Originally Posted By: MarioD There is a chord called Cdim(Maj7) so your proposed chord is real: https://www.scales-chords.com/chord/piano/Cdim(maj7) You know, that actually doesn't surprise me one bit, much like I'm quite confident in that the aforementioned Cm7b9 is equally real (and a hoist of others not found within BBox). They both are, as I said before, pretty straight forward, and one has to wonder sometimes about seemingly arbitrary exclusions like that within BBox's data. Have thanks for that link reference, though, that's one for my bookmarks for sure Just because you can, doesn't mean you should! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BBox 2022 Audiophile, Mac Pro Intel, OSX 10.6.8, 800x600 (TV VGA)

Re: What would you call this chord? Jim Fogle #595477 05/03/20 06:02 AM Songwriting
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OP Icelander Veteran Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,786 Iceland	Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle Eddie, I used PG Music's +++ Piano Chord Dictionary +++ and obtained the results shown below. That reference only makes me wish they'd offer this thing for Mac! Just because you can, doesn't mean you should! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BBox 2022 Audiophile, Mac Pro Intel, OSX 10.6.8, 800x600 (TV VGA)

Re: What would you call this chord? Icelander #595479 05/03/20 06:14 AM Songwriting
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,960 Winston Salem, NC USA Jim Fogle Veteran
Jim Fogle Veteran Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 10,960 Winston Salem, NC USA	Originally Posted By: Icelander Originally Posted By: Jim Fogle Eddie, I used PG Music's +++ Piano Chord Dictionary +++ and obtained the results shown below. That reference only makes me wish they'd offer this thing for Mac! Thanks for mentioning that Eddie. I browsed through the Mac portal to find the link I provided thinking PG Music offered the program for Windows and for Mac. Evidently they don't and I didn't realize it until you posted your response. Perhaps it's time for another wishlist request? Jim Fogle - 2026 BiaB (Build 1220) RB (Build 7) - Ultra+ PAK DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8 Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home

Re: What would you call this chord? Icelander #595725 05/04/20 05:27 PM Songwriting
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Kajun Jeaux Journeyman K Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 459 Baker, La	Ebm6#5

Re: What would you call this chord? Jim Fogle #595727 05/04/20 05:35 PM Songwriting
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Kajun Jeaux Journeyman K Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 459 Baker, La	If you're going to try to use it in BIAB you'll have to use Ebm6

Re: What would you call this chord? Icelander #595732 05/04/20 07:59 PM Songwriting
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Noel96 Veteran Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 20,319 Australia	BIAB as Ebm#5 so combining this with Kajun Jeaux's answer above, it's worth trying Ebm#5/C. Out of curiosity, what key is the music in at this point in the song? MY SONGS... Audiophile BIAB 2026 audios on Soundcloud

Re: What would you call this chord? Noel96 #595800 05/05/20 04:08 AM Songwriting
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OP Icelander Veteran Joined: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,786 Iceland	Originally Posted By: Noel96 Out of curiosity, what key is the music in at this point in the song? I set it to Cm, although the intended scale is Locrian. I have actually already completed and submitted the song, in case you're "curious" enough: https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=595731 I had planned to use that elusive chord for the ending only, but I ended up not using it at all, since it turns out that BBox cannot deal correctly with slash chords for the ending section in the first place (something I did not know until this li'l experiment, btw, and I've reported that as a glitch). Just because you can, doesn't mean you should! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- BBox 2022 Audiophile, Mac Pro Intel, OSX 10.6.8, 800x600 (TV VGA)

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