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Hi all Well just had a disastrous experience with W10 features update. First it took 6 or so hours to download and install. And despite being offered as ready for download, it will not run if I leave my Akai pro Audio interface Asio driver active as my default device in fact I have to power it down. Other wise it loads as far as the desktop as soon as the sound tries to run it says it has encountered an error and will report it and reboot. This cause it to go into loop of restart error, report, restart. Also windows reports Coolsoft midi synth has midi driver error and offers to repair but it only last for the current session. If I use the built in soundcard or the HD monitor one the pc works apart from Coolsoft as above. So with fingers crossed I a am restoring an Acronis image from April Update Acronis failed with an error. Now trying to go back to a previous build via windows recovery options. Note this is only available for 10 days after update to the latest version Let you know if it works may take some hours. Mike 
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Ugggh. Sorry to hear that sir. It always seems to be something with Windows updates. I reported on a different thread below in this forum that I had some USB driver issues causing my screens not to go into PowerSave. The odd things these updates cause is amazing.
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My laptop just updated yesterday, successfully, to build 1909. I do not have any setting to delay the update on that PC.
It's clear Microsoft has their own rollout schedule.
It also seems to be normal for Microsoft not to have tested the effect of their OS updates on every digital audio program and driver, even through long beta testing.
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What an experience, I had a fail with version 2004 on my main desktop, wont try again for a while, as someone has said to me on a forum, you can pass on this update unless you feel like a challenge!
Believe me I don't, I just wanted the damm thing to install.
So restored my Acronis image, by the way though I have ATI 2010 and also ATI 2018, I hate the later version so much that I totally uninstalled it and make the images with ATI 2010 in Windows 7 (dual boot computer with Windows 10)
The only redeeming feature of ATI 2018 is that it can see My SSD where as ATI 2010 cant if I boot from the boot disk.
I also make an occasional image with Macrium Reflect as well just to be on the safe side, but as anyone who works with computer knows, that doesn't even guarantee that I wouldn't have to do a total reinstall.
Did you try to restore the image Mike both from within ATI app in Windows (sometimes when it reboots to restore, it can't see the image) and also try the boot rescue disk?
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What is this windows 10 of which you speaketh?
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Latest version upgrade from v 1909 to v 2004.Not offered to all at the moment through Windows update, but if you download Windows media creation tool you can get it that way.
Only if you are up for a challenge though as not much of interest in it, and you have a good image of your drive in case things go wrong
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Latest version upgrade from v 1909 to v 2004.Not offered to all at the moment through Windows update, but if you download Windows media creation tool you can get it that way.
Only if you are up for a challenge though as not much of interest in it, and you have a good image of your drive in case things go wrong Does this mean that V2004 is in beta?
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Latest version upgrade from v 1909 to v 2004.Not offered to all at the moment through Windows update, but if you download Windows media creation tool you can get it that way.
Only if you are up for a challenge though as not much of interest in it, and you have a good image of your drive in case things go wrong Does this mean that V2004 is in beta? Not officially as far as I know, its an official release but at the moment it seems is only offered to computers that Microsoft thinks is compatible, though that doesn't mean much as I got the message to download and it was a total failure. But if you are willing to give it a try, Google how to download Microsofts Media creation Tool, burn the downloaded install files to DVD or I think put on an USB stick and install from there.
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The desktop I purchased November, 2019 shipped with Windows 10 Home version 1809. I immediately updated it to version 1903 and updated to version 1909 in January, 2020. Yesterday the computer downloaded and installed version 2004. Four operating systems in eight months.
Presently the computer works fine using the default motherboard audio which is a Realtek audio circuit. I record using the "what you hear" setting on the computer or use an external recorder so I have no audio interface.
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I would hope that you were given the option whether to download and install or to give it a miss Jim.
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I would hope that you were given the option whether to download and install or to give it a miss Jim. I am version 1909 here, it installed back in February. But the updates always download and install automatically, is there a place in Windows were you can set it so that it gives you the option of whether or not to install an update?
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Hi again After many hours uninstalling then re down loading the W10 features update, having first removed my Akai pro interface and drivers from the system reinstalled And all worked well. BIAB worked fine with the on board sound Realtech. After much searching and research I found an updated Asio driver for the Akai pro for windows 8 and 10 driver version 2.954. It seems I was and had been using the W7 Asio driver inherited from my original W7 build when I upgraded to W10 . Mind you it worked fine right up to this latest windows update. Anyway installed the new driver and reconnected the interface and guess what worked like a dream. So nothing ventured nothing gained I tried it in BIAB fine all good and running, You know what I am sure it sounds better than before bit more umph and no sign of any bit crushing distortion. Watch this space Mike 
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I would hope that you were given the option whether to download and install or to give it a miss Jim. I am version 1909 here, it installed back in February. But the updates always download and install automatically, is there a place in Windows were you can set it so that it gives you the option of whether or not to install an update? Yes, sort of. In Settings (the cog wheel icon after clicking in the lower left corner), go to Windows Updates. There are options which include manual installation and delaying for (I think) one week after Microsoft rolls it out for your PC.
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I would hope that you were given the option whether to download and install or to give it a miss Jim. Musiclover, the upgrade was optional. I decided to upgrade for a couple of reasons. I've already done a Windows 10 "fresh start" multiple times on the desktop computer. For me the Windows 10 "fresh start" feature is one of the more desirable new features. Fresh start allows you to substitute an operating system image that doesn't contain bloatware for the original equipment manufacture (OEM) image that typically contains software and add-ons you don't want. You can even choose to keep your present settings or not. I went totally new going from version 1803 to 1903 and from 1903 to 1909. Version 1909 to 2004 was an upgrade, not a fresh start. I'm still loading programs and things onto the desktop so if version 2004 doesn't work out I can use the version 1909 image I have and start from scratch again without losing much effort. The feedback I've read indicates version 2004 is having trouble with specific audio drivers but there hasn't been any issues reported for motherboards with Intel or RealTech audio circuits. I'm sticking with the onboard audio, at least for the near future. If I keep version 2004 it will be supported until November, 2021 since Microsoft's new 18 month support cycle starts the day a version is released. Meanwhile there should be three additional version releases I can check out.
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Keep in mind that the next time they have an update it will include everything that was in 2004. You gonna go until you die without ever updating?
It installed on all 6 of my PCs and I have had zero issues on any of them.
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two of my pcs loaded 2004 faultlessly and my sound on the music pc is still intact even though i'm running an elderly Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum with a driver from a newer card.
the third pc is still stuck on 1903 and refuses to install 1909 let alone 2004. however, i had a similar issue with one of the others and had to wait until that version of windows 10 came to the end of its support and microsoft forced an update.
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