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Covid 19; Is ignorance or indifference putting more lives at risk? A light hearted introduction to the topic; Old Crow Medicine Show - Quarantined (Official Video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gD1B0X2SWw&list=PL3r_j6sKne0ee5iNX0-U6oszcpaY70asP&index=3&t=0sI don't know about you, but I'm tired of people acting as if it didn't exist, or speaking of it in the past tense as if it weren't still happening. According to Bing, the US death toll today is 192,082. I was an early adopter of masks. As soon as I found some to order I placed an order for 3 boxes. 1 for me, 1 for my son and 1 for my ex-wife. We never leave home without them. So what do you think? Ignorance or indifference?
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Punk attitude is the problem. That whole "Nobody ain't gon' tell ME I gotsta wear a mask!!!" Combined with the ignorance factor of "How is this mask going to protect me?" Well, dumbass, the mask is to protect us FROM you by not allowing your exhaled breath to travel far enough for us to inhale it. You don't know if you are a carrier or not. You can spread a virus without having symptoms yourself. But that is this angry generation that thinks they know it all despite that being 180 degrees off. (If any of that generation Y is confused, 180 degrees off means "you have it backwards".) Just like how you can contract shingles from someone exposed to chicken pox though that person doesn't have chicken pox.
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How many responses until this post gets banned? It's amazing how little time it took for someone to suggest a ban about a topic on an international pandemic that affects every living human being on the planet even though it included a relevant musical song addressing the problem. Free speech does appear to be a problem in 2020's "cancel culture".
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Covid 19; Is ignorance or indifference putting more lives at risk? A light hearted introduction to the topic; Old Crow Medicine Show - Quarantined (Official Video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gD1B0X2SWw&list=PL3r_j6sKne0ee5iNX0-U6oszcpaY70asP&index=3&t=0sI don't know about you, but I'm tired of people acting as if it didn't exist, or speaking of it in the past tense as if it weren't still happening. According to Bing, the US death toll today is 192,082. I was an early adopter of masks. As soon as I found some to order I placed an order for 3 boxes. 1 for me, 1 for my son and 1 for my ex-wife. We never leave home without them. So what do you think? Ignorance or indifference? Both and a refusal to listen to the experts and getting counsel from unqualified people.
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I own a farm. We spray dangerous chemicals almost every day. I have Dupont Hazmat suits and half face respirators our guys wear every day. So wearing a mask is so normal for me I never gave it a second thought. I have to pass government hazmat test to prove I understand how and why to use the equipment.
Having to wear PPE to the supermarket was a new thing and I knew from the beginning the information regarding mask wearing, these little blue mask were pretty poor protection. I had Green N95 mask of the type doctors use in the ER. It is what I use for everyday stuff.
I don't have any control of anyone else's ignorance or indifference, real or perceived. If you wear a mask or not I am going to protect myself. I also did not need the government to tell me to put one on. I am a old guy and I do not want to contract Covid-19.
I have no expectation people in general would have any idea what a nanometer is or how small a viron is, or what sort of mask will do what but they should see that doctors wear mask to protect them self all the time. So what is the big deal?
I know people who think Covid-19 does not exist. I also know people who think the earth is flat. With the number of folks who can not read the front page of a newspaper, in any language, I don't find it strange that they may not believe something they can nor see exist.
I know my employees have gotten sick and one died. The hospital said he had Covid-19 and I have no reason not to believe them.
On this particular issue I am neither ignorance or indifference but it is very east to become complacent. I hope we can all put this pandemic behind us sooner than later. There seems to be good reason to think a vaccine will be produced. There is no guarantee this will ever happen and if we don't get a vaccine we will adapt.
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bobcflatpicker, for me one of the saddest things is realizing how many people in the USA have allowed something as basic as a mask to be a political statement. If we had had a national policy on masks and social distancing from the beginning we could already have this pandemic under control and 100,000 Americans could still be alive.
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The first thing I noticed when I started wearing a mask was how many people looked at me like I was some kind of freak. At least that's changed.
For the record, I hate wearing a mask. I'm old, I'm fat, I've had open heart surgery just a couple of years ago, I have high blood pressure, I have breathing problems. If someone was going to try to claim a medical exemption as an excuse to not wear a mask then I have a whole list of reasons I could use to try to get out of it.
Still, I wouldn't even consider going out in public without a mask, and I try to stay at least 10 ft. or more from anyone around me.
One of my sisters birthday was a couple of weeks ago. My other sister was coming up to see her and they both wanted to come over to visit. My sister with the birthday did warn me that she'd started going back to church recently after the initial phase of the pandemic. I told her that I'd rather they didn't come over until after the pandemic was over.
She's exposing herself to hundreds of people 3 times a week and anyone else she goes around gets that same exposure. Not only would I be exposed to the mass amount of people she comes into contact with but I would also be exposing my son to the same.
It's not rocket science to slow the spread of Covid. Avoid crowds, wear a mask in public and practice social distancing. It's not a guarantee but it significantly increases your chances of protecting others and yourselves.
Just because we have some fools in leadership positions doesn't mean we should emulate them or listen to the nonsense that comes out of their mouths.
Science first. Politics doesn't even make it into the top 10.
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The only reason I didn't title this post "Is ignorance or apathy putting more lives at risk?" is because I didn't want to get the stock answer of "I don't know and I don't care".
I saw where some famous sports figure was trying to defend playing sports during Covid and he said "If I die, ...then I die". Somehow I don't think he'd be using those words if he or a loved one were dying from Covid.
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I know people who think Covid-19 does not exist. I also know people who think the earth is flat. Even more shocking, some people think that Stevie Nicks can sing!! Your mention of a farm brought her to mind, with with that voice that sounds like a sheep and all.... If she wasn't hot, she would have NO male fans. And she is like 71 now and STILL hot.
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Our good friend of 25 years died of Covid last month after three miserable weeks on a ventilator. He was fit (we mountain bike raced together for years), smart, well educated, science based and did all the right things to avoid infection. He apparently contracted it from a non mask wearing person while he was at a PT visit. His wife appealed three times to the hospital CEO to let her and their adult children be at his bedside. He was a great father and athlete whom I never heard say an unkind word.
His wife now wears a mask that says on it “I lost a loved one ... I wear this mask to protect yours.”
I know this forum is supposed to be music related so I’ll mention that his son once played drums in a band of note and that he sang in a church choir that was frequently invited to perform at many venues.
That’s all I have to say.
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Life is short so make sure you spend as much time as possible on the Internet arguing with strangers.
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The only reason I didn't title this post "Is ignorance or apathy putting more lives at risk?" is because I didn't want to get the stock answer of "I don't know and I don't care".
I saw where some famous sports figure was trying to defend playing sports during Covid and he said "If I die, ...then I die". Somehow I don't think he'd be using those words if he or a loved one were dying from Covid.
Bob, it is ignorance. We have a generation of kids that did not learn any history, have no manors, have been told their whole lives that they are special, never had a somewhat major disappointment, think everything should be free, and like most of us when we were at that age think they are invincible. The difference is when we were kids we could not kill people by breathing on them!
Life is short so make sure you spend as much time as possible on the Internet arguing with strangers.
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You can't cure stupid.
My bro-in-law's family decided to take the advice of a real estate salesman instead of the medical experts in contagious diseases. Wife, son, and son's fiance all got COVID. Wife thought she was going to die in an isolation ward while it took everything she had just to breathe. She now has permanent organ damage. The jury is out on whether the organ damage of son and fiance will be permanent or just take years to heal.
My bro-in-law says, "I was stupid."
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I heard a MLK quote today that I'd never heard before.
"The time is always right to do what is right."
This is true in so many areas of our lives. To stay on topic, if people would just start avoiding crowds, wearing masks and practicing social distancing it would save tens of thousands of lives.
It's not a political statement, ... just an easy defense to the modern day plaque we are currently facing.
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In The UK It's disgusting to see so many people ???? Protesting against lockdown, protesting against climate change and all the rest of it.
Many covidiots here believe it's all one huge hoax devised by worldwide governments. Illegal parties taking place all over the country and the virus is on the increase again. People like those morons will be the first to bleat when they're locked up in their homes again. Myself and my wife have barely left our garden for the last 6 months, yet, people like our neighbours ignored the lockdown since day one, going out & about several times a day. The police here need more power to arrest thoughtless scum and fine them heavily.
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West Virginia University becomes the latest school to backtrack on in-person classes after a spike in Covid-19 cases https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/08/us/west-virginia-university-coronavirus-trnd/index.htmlI don't know why schools keep trying to re-open. It's a bad idea now and it's only going to get worse as fall and winter sets in. Wake up folks! We're in an international pandemic and things aren't going to go back to normal until next year sometime, ... maybe not even then. We missed the boat to put a lid on this in Jan or Feb when we were told it would magically disappear and some people actually believed that nonsense.
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Think about how how many lives could have been saved and how many fewer families would be dealing with the loss of a loved one, maybe even the bread winner of that family, if we hadn't pretended the threat wasn't real and responded sooner.
Maybe we should give more than a second thought to who we put in charge of decisions that affect the lives of hundreds of millions of people.
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How many responses until this post gets banned? It's amazing how little time it took for someone to suggest a ban about a topic on an international pandemic that affects every living human being on the planet even though it included a relevant musical song addressing the problem. Free speech does appear to be a problem in 2020's "cancel culture". I did not suggest a ban.
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