Thanks Everyone for your comments. I have a foot in Both Camps and would like to see Improvements with the Bug Issues and a more Productive Workspace as well as new styles/More Musical Genres (maybe some fusion based). I like to Import certain tracks into my DAW to use with my/others compositions so maybe tighter integration with Studio One/all Daws. Personally i find in new releases a lot of very similar type Rt's and styles that have already been released (especially in Country and Jazz). Only my opinion though!
We already have that from a large percentage of our RealDrums. You can see which ones have that by looking at the RealDrums picker - any of them where the # starts with Ntn has MIDI notation, which can be exported to a MIDI file through the main BB app or through the DAW plugin.
Deb, I hear you. I am kind of with Trevor as well. I would love to see long term bugs fixed a few of the cool ideas Pipeline mentioned maybe less new features and more focus on RTs, and really cool function features. Simon mentioned RT drum charts. A few more of those, keep that rolling.
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I'm still using 2019 and don't want to upgrade to 2020 yet with December looming.
What's everyone's thoughts?
Same here.i think I missed loads by not buying 2020 but empty pockets y'know. Looking forwwrd to what's up for 2021. W
The more I think about it,buying 2021 will largely depend on how much new stuff is for people who want it to remain K I S S. If 2021 is packed full of clever techy-techy for the computer literatti at that expense then I'm probably going to pass. W
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The more I think about it,buying 2021 will largely depend on how much new stuff is for people who want it to remain K I S S. If 2021 is packed full of clever techy-techy for the computer literatti at that expense then I'm probably going to pass. W
Valid points, and worthy of consideration. My hope is that lots of problems that have already been reported will be resolved. More important than a stack of new features in my view, but of course YMMV.
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The more I think about it,buying 2021 will largely depend on how much new stuff is for people who want it to remain K I S S. If 2021 is packed full of clever techy-techy for the computer literatti at that expense then I'm probably going to pass. W
I've been on the 2 year program for the past few times. I stay on the even number years. 2020 was my last purchase and I'll buy again next year for the 2022 version. Spreads the money out a little nicer and I'm not waaaay behind on versions.
I've been on the 2 year program for the past few times. I stay on the even number years. 2020 was my last purchase and I'll buy again next year for the 2022 version. Spreads the money out a little nicer and I'm not waaaay behind on versions.
That seems like a good plan. I passed on 2020 because nothing in the "Fab Fifty" was particularly compelling for me, and RTs in the categories I use were mainly just more of the same. Your 2 year idea would work.
I'm here for the RealTracks! I would prefer they leave the program alone and not introduce any new buggy features. Just do what they do better than anyone...RealTracks!
To add fix a couple nagging issue skip the 50 newbies features and give us a huge load of RTs and maybe some new RDs
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The more I think about it,buying 2021 will largely depend on how much new stuff is for people who want it to remain K I S S. If 2021 is packed full of clever techy-techy for the computer literatti at that expense then I'm probably going to pass. W
I've been on the 2 year program for the past few times. I stay on the even number years. 2020 was my last purchase and I'll buy again next year for the 2022 version. Spreads the money out a little nicer and I'm not waaaay behind on versions.
If my memory serves me right, I did a calculation a few years ago and it didn't really work out that cheaper to upgrade every other year, think it was about $40-$50 at max.
I think the whole program could be considered fully mature at the moment, so many realtracks and other stuff, had a look at the GB it occupies and it was 176, that's the 2020 version
But as the same time most users do look forward to what is in the latest offering when it is released in Dec usually.
There usually is a countdown to what people think what date it will be, and I can't see this year being any different
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Maybe arrow keys to choose styles at the StylePicker. So I could navigate thru the Styles with the arrow keys, while listening them by clicking on the button Play.
If I recall, an older version had this feature. I selected a Style once and then could navigate the Styles with the up and down arrow keys.
Maybe re-generate selected bars only. Maybe more tracks. Maybe Count-In based on actual time-signature of first bar (and Song Settings Count-in) (and RealDrums Count-in Vol adjust). Maybe a VST to sync the main Biab app to your DAW. Maybe chord/scale note colors in Piano roll. Maybe use keyboard styles .sty .prs etc.. Maybe midi chord track for Virtual Instruments and drag export with chord name markers. Maybe 24Bit Audiophile version option.
So what are you hoping for ?
I'd upgrade to Audiophile in a heartbeat IF it was 24 bit OR if it was a bit cheaper. I don't need the hard drive, I can download it!
Also, more than 4 chords in a bar would be great, although I wonder how that would work with RealTracks.
The RealTracks should handle the more than 4 chords, but all the old code would need changing throughout I would imagine Some new skins/themes would be good.
Frankly, I would love to see a 24-bit/96k version of BIAB. 24-bit to make it sound less "flat." 96k to make the stretching have fewer artifacts. I already use the audiophile version, and even stretching the wav files has plenty of chirping going on.
But I know that would take a massive revamp on the back-end, and I'm guessing that nothing was originally recorded above what it's currently at, but that's my wish list.
Oh, and the ability to do chord settings in the VST. I don't understand why I can make bar changes in the VST plugin, but I can't do rests, holds, or pushes in the VST.
Frankly, I would love to see a 24-bit/96k version of BIAB. 24-bit to make it sound less "flat." 96k to make the stretching have fewer artifacts. I already use the audiophile version, and even stretching the wav files has plenty of chirping going on.
This is an interesting idea, one I haven't heard here to my knowledge: increasing the sample rate to lessen stretching artifacts. I hope that is technically correct about how the stretching algorithm works; we don't know.
Originally Posted By: MovingAir
But I know that would take a massive revamp on the back-end, and I'm guessing that nothing was originally recorded above what it's currently at, but that's my wish list.
Again I'm not sure, but from something I vaguely remember, that may not be true. The original recordings might be at a higher bit rate. It's another good question.
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...But I know that would take a massive revamp on the back-end, and I'm guessing that nothing was originally recorded above what it's currently at, but that's my wish list...
I converted some RealTracks to 48kHz/24bit and they worked fine in the Mac version but not Win. Yes I think they were recorded at higher than 44.1kHz
...But I know that would take a massive revamp on the back-end, and I'm guessing that nothing was originally recorded above what it's currently at, but that's my wish list...
I converted some RealTracks to 48kHz/24bit and they worked fine in the Mac version but not Win. Yes I think they were recorded at higher than 44.1kHz
Upsampling tracks would certainly work at least the same as long as the program can read them. I think the question being asked is, will they work better for stretching if they were originally recorded at higher bit and/or sampling rates?
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I'm sorry if I'm saying what you already understand, but it definitely should improve the sound quality, simply because there will be more "meat on the bone", so-to-speak.
When you stretch a 44 or 48k file from 120 BPM to 100 BPM, for example, the samples have to spread out, and the software has to fill in the gaps. The more you stretch, the more it has to create. This causes artifacts.
Now when you have a 96k file, you have twice as many sampling points, so the software has half of the amount of space it needs to fill in, causing far fewer artifacts.
The same should apply to the pitch shifting as well: The frequency changes affect the distance between sampling points. More samples, less artifacts.
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