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Hi

There are a number of issues with function and stability in BB20/811, likely caused by time constraints during development/fixes and required test/verification.

After some edits of time markers and cut/copy/paste between audio/utility tracks
- no sync with bar markers between audio/utility tracks, e.g. a utility track gets an offset that varies
- changing bars can cause program error "Out of Bounds"
- scrolling stops working

It's not possible to do any major work at this point as the result is totally unpredictable.


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The option on Audio and Utility tracks "Conform to Playback Tempo" could possibly resolve the freelancing bar markers.
Need more testing to see if predictability improves ...

The other two problems remains.

Had a couple of instances after editing and saving a BB20-track with audio to a new name, then the original audio is lost leaving only the original .SGU (and the new .SGU and its .wav).


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Hi Thomas, I mentioned this is a separate thread: Updates are being rolled out regularly as identified issues are being resolved. 813 has now been released, and no doubt further updates will become available. If you can provide the exact workflow steps to reproduce your issue, I'll report directly to the developers.


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Thanks VideoTrack

Just saw the 813 coming in, will have a go at it !


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Additionally

Equalize tempo just gets stuck at 0% if you have audio as well on a utility track.
Restart program ...


So what am I trying to do:

as my BB21 #1 wish was, as posted in the wish forum, to equalize more than a single tempo for the whole audio, i.e. stretching audio on selected regions to separate tempos.
Something you would like to do if you have recorded audio without a click track and with sections with significantly different tempos.

It would be very convenient to this within one go in BB and I was trying to see what the current possibilities were.
There are ways around running the audio file in e.g. two sessions with different equalization/stretching and then cut/paste into a new audio file. Time consuming if you have a lot of songs that needs some trimming.


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hello, drag and drop does not work with audio and utility tracks.

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Hello

I use copy/cut/paste and it seems to work


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I have similar problems with BIAB 2021 - the Audio Chord feature and audio tracks.

I have many songs where I have used the audio chord wizard (in BIAB 2020 and earlier) to figure out the chords and play the audio along with the BIAB chords.

Most all the imported audio were manually marked with bar markers to sync the audio with the chords.

Everything was fine until I upgraded to BIAB 2021 when all the songs with audio were now out of sync and unplayable.

I brought up the ACW and, as expected, none of the bar markers were where they should be - they had been relocated to a constant tempo. I attempted to fix them to no avail.

After some investigation I found that in the mixer window on the Audio Track, right clicking will bring up a track settings menu. One of the options is "Conform to Playback tempo" which is always set when opening a tune. This right click option in the mixer was not in BIAB 2020.

I suppose that BIAB would work as expected if every time I opened an affected tune, I changed this option, but I shouldn't have to do this. BIAB should save this selection either with a global option, or with an individual saved song.

Also, in the Audio Chord Wizard screen there is a button to "Match audio tempo" which is stuck on.

This defeats the purpose of manually placing bar markers on the audio track, and makes it impossible to sync the chords to the audio. It also messes up previously created songs, which required some time to create.

Because I have found BIAB 2021 unusable for my purposes, I have reverted back to BIAB 2020 and things are back to normal. I only want my old stuff to work in BIAB 2021.

Not being a BIAB expert, I may be doing something wrong and have not found a solution to this dilemma.

I informed PG music of this problem, and have not received an acknowledgement or, better yet, a fix.

I welcome the opportunity to be educated. Thanks for any suggestions.

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Apparently built #814 corrected my problem. The "Conform to Playback Tempo" selection is now turned off - which is fine with me. But, I can't find out how to control it. Maybe someone else knows.

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