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Not sure if it has been reported yet.

I have found that when a song ends and starts again automatically, the count is off and the chord sheet do not match the audio... the audio is in front by a couple of bars.


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When you get a chance, there are couple of extra bits of information that will help.

1) What build are you using? (The latest is 814.)

2) When you say audio, what do you mean precisely? Is it a recorded vocal line of have you rendered the song to an audio file and then have that audio playing along with the BIAB file, etc.?

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Originally Posted By: Noel96
When you get a chance, there are couple of extra bits of information that will help.

1) What build are you using? (The latest is 814.)

2) When you say audio, what do you mean precisely? Is it a recorded vocal line of have you rendered the song to an audio file and then have that audio playing along with the BIAB file, etc.?

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Hi Noel.
It is 2021 (814).

Just loaded
Title: AUTUMN LEAVES
File:AUTUMNLE.MG1

Press Play, let it go through its course and when it finish playing, it restart from the top. The count starts and the chord chart stays 1 Bar (not 2 bars as mentioned above) behind the audio. It is out of synch. The file is as supplied from PG Music, no added recordings or modifications applied to it.

This is also true when other songs are loaded and played.

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Re:
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Title: AUTUMN LEAVES
File:AUTUMNLE.MG1
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The file is as supplied from PG Music, no added recordings or modifications applied to it.

Did PG Music actually supply this file or might it have been downloaded from a separate source?
My setup certainly does not have this file in anything supplied by PG Music.


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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Re:
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Title: AUTUMN LEAVES
File:AUTUMNLE.MG1
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The file is as supplied from PG Music, no added recordings or modifications applied to it.

Did PG Music actually supply this file or might it have been downloaded from a separate source?
My setup certainly does not have this file in anything supplied by PG Music.


I would dare to say this is not a PGM file. I happen to have this. So I played it in current
BIAB 2021. First It does not "automatically" start to play a second time. It also does not have a proper start. It ignores the pick up notes characteristic of the tune so it is possible someone has edited it to get the pickup notes and then maybe caused a problem with the file..

Can you upload your version of the tune so we can look close at it.

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OK, My apology. I might have got this from another source but is is the same with this other song, which it came with the Jazz Guitar v1-3:

Title: GS001 Passages - style similar to EdB or JimH
File:GS001.MGU
Key=Am , Tempo 124, Length (m:s)=6:17
No intro. 32 bar chorus, from bar 1 to bar 32. Repeat x6 choruses
Melody has 1037 notes, Melody harmony is < no harmony >(0)
No Soloist track.
Song is saved with Volume, Pan, Reverb, Chorus, Bank0,
Style is GS051.STY ()
Style MIDI Instruments are : Acoustic String Bass (33), Electric Piano (5), Nylon String Guitar (25), Strings (49),
MIDI Drums :1 Standard Drum Kit (1)

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I must confirm that this does not happen on the 2020 version of BIAB.

Its really late here... I will upload the file later on.


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I have this song (I have the other one too, but not from PG Music).
The song is 6 choruses of 32 bars.
I tried setting the Always Loop to ON and playing from chorus 6 and the song ends and starts again correctly here, including the count-in.

Did you adjust the number of choruses at any time?
If so, you would have been asked to adjust the Melody Track. I did not try this, and it wasn't mentioned in your post.

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Originally Posted By: biab-user
Not sure if it has been reported yet.

I have found that when a song ends and starts again automatically, the count is off and the chord sheet do not match the audio... the audio is in front by a couple of bars.

Also, which Audio are you referring to? the song I checked was completely MIDI (GS001.MGU).

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Hi VideoTrack

Yes that's the same song.

When I mentioned the Audio, I mean what is coming out from the speakers not an audio track, but the master's output.

I have checked it again and this problem happens with every song I have tried so far.

If I load a song and press Play, the song plays as it should after a 1,2,3,4 count in and (in my case) at the end of the complete song, it automatically restart.

At this point the count in is different, it goes 1,/,2,/, 1,2,3,4 BUT...
I can hear the drum stick's audio counting 1,2,3,4 hence the chord chart is now 1 bar behind the audio.

If I stop the song from playing and press Play again, it then play correctly.

It must be a bug related to the automatic restart of the song.


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I have contacted PG Music's technical support team.

I'll let you know the outcome.


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I wondered from your latest description whether you were using the visible metronome as well as the sound. So I've just tried with that turned on and mine works fine. No delay on the second time round.

So maybe you have another unusual setting for the count-in that most don't use. Perhaps telling us what your count-in and loop settings are would help, there seem to be quite a few options.

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I'm away from the computer at the moment.
I'll check some settings later.

I already tried the three song looping settings, on, off and as per song settings.

It didn't make any difference... apart from the off, which of course it doesn't apply.


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I have located the bug.

It is to do with the 1 bar count in checkbox in the "Count in/Met" preferences.

If this is unchecked it works fine but not if I check it on.

I have tested this out on the 2020 version and there is no problem there.


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Excellent detective work! I have also reported your findings here to the developers.


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That's Great! Thanks!


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Yup, we've received a report for this bug, and hopefully it'll be fixed in an upcoming patch.


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I have been looking for this song high and low. Is the GS001.MGU entitled passages? I had this on my windows computer version of the Megapack I bought years ago. I am trying to play this on my mac version of BIA-2024. Can anyone point me in the direction of where to get it? Is it only part of the Jazz Masterclass soloist collection that is only available for MAC?


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