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Hi, just getting into '21 after my last Audiophile edition was '14. I even found a nice easy fusion keys RT that fit with what I was doing in Cubase. Cool. So tonight just playing around with BIAB and seeing what it can give me MIDI wise and I tried loading up a MIDI only style so I can try some of my VSTs, just to see what the possibilities are. So the first was for bass, and I tried loading up EZ Bass by Toontrack, heavy crash, wouldn't even load while it was attempting to, so I had to force a shutdown with Task Manager because BIAB froze also. So on the next attempt I tried EZ Keys, that was even worse, plug crashed, BIAB crashed and I couldn't even close with Task Manager. I had to restart my computer. So there was no way I was going to try Superior Drummer. lol. All is not lost though. Melda MSoundfactory loaded up for bass, keys and anything else I wanted. NI Battery also loaded fine although the MIDI mapping was a bit off. I couldn't get any sound out of the HI Q plugin though, the Sforzando. Maybe I did something wrong. I probably won't use MIDI much but I want to explore the Supertracks so I'll keep at it.
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BiaB 2021. OK.
What Build Number? (there have been several since its first release)
BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
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BIAB Build 814 is available. I am a big TT fan and have used all of their products along with BIAB for years. A great combination. Having said that, I would never have tried to load a TT VST into BIAB. Despite all claims of advancements in BIAB VST hosting I still don't believe it would work. Someone may come along who could make it work? However, I am betting after they make it work, they will never use it that way. Just hoping to provide some perspective, your mileage may vary. 
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You mentioned your prior version of Band-in-a-Box was 2014. That version was exclusively a 32 bit program while the 2021 program is available as both 32 and 64 bit. Is it possible that you're trying to use 32 bit plugins in the 64 bit program?
If you use Microsoft Explorer to navigate to the Band-in-a-Box directory folder you'll find two Band-in-a-Box programs. The 32 bit program is BBW.exe while the 64 bit program is BBW64.exe. You can create desktop shortcut icons for the program you're not using by hovering your mouse over a file, right click to open the right click menu and selecting "Send to Desktop - create a shortcut".
You may find the plugins work in the program you're not using.
Please give us an update with your findings.
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For Info I use EZKeys, EZbass, EZDrum, and also the Superior Drummer, in BIAB 21 and I must admit that it has never worked so well. Almost instantaneous and no crashes, even during backup. PG has made great progress on Plugins, that's a fact.
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For Info I use EZKeys, EZbass, EZDrum, and also the Superior Drummer, in BIAB 21 and I must admit that it has never worked so well. Almost instantaneous and no crashes, even during backup. PG has made great progress on Plugins, that's a fact. Well that is good to hear.
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Thanks, but no, I know what I'm doing, all my plugs are 64 bit. Toontrack just won't go with opening. I don't think I have 32 bit versions of the Toontrack plugs. And I am aware there is a 32 bit BIAB also. I'll keep messing with it. It's not a deal breaker if they don't work, I am glad that the Melda plug works, just wanted something to sound out the MIDI tracks better. Ideally I'd just bring the MIDI tracks over to Cubase and use the Toontrack plugs there. Thanks for the replies.
Last edited by Fivehands; 01/09/21 01:11 PM.
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With all due respect to Pipeline, I cannot fathom out why we continually need to acquire free and paid add-ons to make BiaB & RB work with many of the VST's and VSTi's? This has been ongoing for the past 15-20 years and PG still cannot get it right? In 2021 I still have to download Cakewalk/Bandlab and install an app that I do not use to be able to access the TTS-1 midi synth (or pay $40 for a stone age Forte Dxi).
"Upgrading" annually has now become a serious consideration for me and at the high price point when fundamental aspects that could be improved receive no attention.
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Thanks, I may try that. But for now I just wanted a nice electric piano sound just to audition MIDI tracks, and actually the Melda one was nicer than the electrics in EZ Keys. I have the full RC too, so I'll look into getting Elements for that.
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As someone mentioned it's sounds like a group
BB and The Workarounds
I have done my best for over 10 years to get them out of the past.
Some users don't like change so if new users come with improvement suggestions they have not been too welcomed and were usually jumped on, then you don't hear from the new users again.
So you don't get that drive to make things better and keep up with the modern world.
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Here is a user saying it works.
“ For Info I use EZKeys, EZbass, EZDrum, and also the Superior Drummer, in BIAB 21 and I must admit that it has never worked so well. Almost instantaneous and no crashes, even during backup. PG has made great progress on Plugins, that's a fact.”
If he gets it to work then maybe we should get Marco to detail how he uses it for the benefit of all, rather than continuing to say it doesn’t.
He is another suggestion for five hands. If your ultimately working in Cubase maybe exploring the use of the plugin where you route the tracks out of the plugin using the multioutput feature to individual tracks in Cubase and load the TT plugins in those tracks. Also once you have a nice midi track bed in BiaB save and open in the plugin and do the routing or drag the tracks into cubase and continue.
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He is another suggestion for five hands. If your ultimately working in Cubase maybe exploring the use of the plugin where you route the tracks out of the plugin using the multioutput feature to individual tracks in Cubase and load the TT plugins in those tracks. Also once you have a nice midi track bed in BiaB save and open in the plugin and do the routing or drag the tracks into cubase and continue. That is exactly my workflow. Because of the archaic structure of BiaB I do as little as possible in it and do virtually all of my work in my DAW, Studio One Pro 5. Note that virtually all of my songs start in BiaB but are quickly moved to my DAW.
I arrived early to a restaurant.
The manager asks, "do you mind waiting a bit?"
I said no.
"Good", he said. "Take these drinks to table 3"
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.........................
He is another suggestion for five hands. If your ultimately working in Cubase maybe exploring the use of the plugin where you route the tracks out of the plugin using the multioutput feature to individual tracks in Cubase and load the TT plugins in those tracks. Also once you have a nice midi track bed in BiaB save and open in the plugin and do the routing or drag the tracks into cubase and continue. That is exactly my workflow. Because of the archaic structure of BiaB I do as little as possible in it and do virtually all of my work in my DAW, Studio One Pro 5. Note that virtually all of my songs start in BiaB but are quickly moved to my DAW. And the VST3 BiaB plugin is making that even easier in SO5 Pro! Note: FWIW, the Studio One 5 Artist version ($100) now supports third-party VSTs, formerly a $100 add-on.
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Yes, definitely there are ways to get it done. All I did was try to open the TT stuff just to audition MIDI tracks and it crashed the entire BIAB program. But I have other VST instruments that I was able to open and work with. I haven't even delved into the plug in VST for BIAB. Since EZ keys is a generative MIDI plug the best way to actually use it for me is in Cubase anyway.
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