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Interesting article here about a young lady doing the same thing we all here do....working with her music on a computer and a DAW. Except she turned it into a $4500 a month business through streaming and teaching others how she does it. https://grow.acorns.com/how-to-make-money-on-twitch/Jeff
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That's it! I had enough!
I am getting a push up bra for enhanced cleavage and dying whats left of my hair blonde!
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Good one! If you think that will help, give it a shot! But do you really think a blonde beard will help?
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There are a lot of people out there looking to hit it big with their music. I've been using BIAB to produce music for all sorts of artists on fiverr.com the past few years. I'm not making a fortune, but it has provided enough income to support my hobby. I decided that there's more money to be made trying to help other artists be successful (who doesn't think they've written the next big hit?) To me it's like selling picks and shovels to miners instead of mining myself.
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That's it! I had enough!
I am getting a push up bra for enhanced cleavage and dying whats left of my hair blonde! Please let us know when you do that. I'd happily support a "Blondiespoon" twitch channel.
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Pay attention to one thing she said. "I'm always in my room making music anyway."
Anybody here spend many hours a day in "my room making music"?
I don't know how familiar most of your OGs are with Twitch, but if you go through and look at who has the followers, it's the hot girls, and the more risque they are willing to be, the higher the subscriber count. Twitch takes 50% off the top. One young woman who streams as CurvyLlama, is built like runway models WISH they were built and she is as irreverent and foul mouthed as anybody I have ever known. She is a Twitch STAR! Twitch has rules about nudity and they enforce them, but I have seen Llama (Amanda) on other things where she shows that she is completely uninhibited about such things.
Sadly, that's where our world is now. Kids who play video games on their computer and stream it get subscribers and don't have an actual job. Some are voiceover actors and such. Some do play gigs but not that many. Twitch is another world. I follow one guy who does scammer baiting but I have no interest in following someone who plays video games for a living.
So it would not be unfair or inaccurate to say that her money doesn't come from PLAYING music, but showing people HOW to play music.
Even in a loose environment of music education, sex sells....
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What she's doing definitely wouldn't work for a man. But she's not the first young lady who has learned to use her "assets" to make the cash register go ka-ching! 
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Anybody here spend many hours a day in "my room making music"? <...> Guilty as charged. I am making new e-style disks for Band-in-a-Box, Leilani and I are making new fake e-disks for Band-in-a-Box, I am making new backing tracks for our duo, Leilani and I are learning new songs, We also often play in the living room to keep our chops in shape. I practice my newest and 7th instrument, lead guitar too. Sometimes I neglect other things to make more time for music. I'm a hopeless music addict. Notes
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As a man - I can definitely say that given the choice between WATCHING videos of either a beautiful woman make music I like - or any man making even much, much, better music to my ear - that beautiful woman may get equal or probably more watch time from me. Notice I didn't say I would LIKE the music itself more, just the 'overall entertainment experience' lol Now listening without video - to pure audio, the answer is of course a different one. In today's world, my guess is video watching is much more prevalent than audio-only.
Can any man on this website say differently ? (this question invites contrary views)
Can any man on this website say they at least SOMEWHAT agree with me ? (only fair to also poll for similar views)
If you're a woman on this website - aside from probably being in the minority, would a similar statement hold true if you reverse the sexes in the above ?
Most people just LOVE to gawk at "beautiful" people, and quite often, the view of beautiful is common enough that we can all agree that many of our most famous 'beautiful' movie stars fill that criteria.
When I pick netflix shows to watch, how beautiful I find the women is most definitely a factor - not the only one, but a strong one.
Do I feel "superficial" for saying this so blatantly ? I don't - I think I understand human nature.
Gonna be interesting to here people's feelings on my viewpoint.
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People hear with their eyes first. These pics are all I need to say on the topic. Back in the days of vinyl and 12x12 cover art, I bought 3 Stevie Nicks albums, and still TODAY I don't think she can sing at all. That whole nasal sheep thing.... eww. But that Belladonna album art.... whew!!  What would you rather look at? This  Or this 
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Interesting. Today I moved my mutt out of her way of a pretty girl in a pet shop in Hong Kong. Meanwhile, unknown to me, my 15 year old daughter was swooning in the corner. It turned out she was an Instagram influencer with thousands of teenage fans. Given my daughter had 6,000 followers on Tiktok before they banned it here (go figure - this is China after all!  ), I guess that's quite something. Apart from the fact that she was easy on the eye, I couldn't see anything special, except she was nervous (perhaps of stepping on) my aged poodle. Sadly, my daughter assures me I do not have what it has to be an influencer no matter what colour I dye my hair or what I wear - the poodle perhaps. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2605141/Dogs-Hong-Kong-wear-dainty-outfits-spend-days-spa-specialist-BAKERY.html
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There are a lot of people out there looking to hit it big with their music. I've been using BIAB to produce music for all sorts of artists on fiverr.com the past few years. I'm not making a fortune, but it has provided enough income to support my hobby. I decided that there's more money to be made trying to help other artists be successful (who doesn't think they've written the next big hit?) To me it's like selling picks and shovels to miners instead of mining myself. I think it has always been true that the only people who really make any money in the arts are those who "sell the dream" to the artists. In a world where "starving artist" is a cultural cliche, the vendors who sell them their tools are likely to fare better than the actual artists. And now the paradigm has shifted from brick and mortar shops to online tutorials and software.
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There are a lot of people out there looking to hit it big with their music. I've been using BIAB to produce music for all sorts of artists on fiverr.com the past few years. I'm not making a fortune, but it has provided enough income to support my hobby. I decided that there's more money to be made trying to help other artists be successful (who doesn't think they've written the next big hit?) To me it's like selling picks and shovels to miners instead of mining myself. I think it has always been true that the only people who really make any money in the arts are those who "sell the dream" to the artists. In a world where "starving artist" is a cultural cliche, the vendors who sell them their tools are likely to fare better than the actual artists. And now the paradigm has shifted from brick and mortar shops to online tutorials and software. Surely our beloved band in a box doesn't fall into the above category?
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Our beloved Band in a Box doesn't make CDs or tour.
The artist USING it might, but we are talking about the performers making money, not inanimate objects.
My perception of streaming and the whole area of youtube and all that is this. I have been working with computers since 1980, way back on a Texas Instruments TI-99/4a. It was a pile of crap, but it was a computer. Then come the Commodore 64. Then came small DOS machines. Then an IBM Big Blue that I paid (wait for it) $4,000 for!!! (See "pile of crap" above.) Then a career in IT after music ended.
So to me, anything computer based is fun, not work. People getting online and streaming music lessons... well, you better have a music credential that makes you qualified to teach. If you are a campfire chord strummer, don't be teaching people how to play your open string chords. If you truly know the instrument and will teach music, okay, but teaching people how to play your favorite songs to me isn't music lessons. The money these people make from the ad revenue is modest until you get to elite status with a gajillion subs and you get paid from the ad rolls. (I use Ad Block for Youtube so I don't see ads, thus I don't contribute to that income.) The times have changed to where people think posting and streaming on Youtube and Twitch are a real job, and maybe it a way it is. They do a lot of recording and editing to make their 10 minute videos coherent and informative. One guy I know told me he spends as much as 6-7 hours to do a 10 minute video. Writing script, recording it, re-takes for line flubs, video editing, etc. I personally don't have the patience or the editing skills to do that. Nor do I care to learn. The few videos I have done are posted just like they are shot. No editing at all. And it shows. When you see an extremely slick edited video, be sure that video recording is all that person does. I can appreciate that in only one regard, that being that you can do it all day long and not have to go out and be with people. I am in the introvert category to the max. I simply don't like people when I have to be among them. I buy everything for either quick pickup or home delivery.
So yeah, if people use online video production as their hustle, so be it. I just don't call it a job to play with computers and cameras all day. If people are dumb enough to be donating to Patroon accounts so the youtubers can have $1000 DSLR cameras, that's on them. I have never donated to anybody nor will I. I am my favorite charity.
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I think it has always been true that the only people who really make any money in the arts are those who "sell the dream" to the artists. In a world where "starving artist" is a cultural cliche, the vendors who sell them their tools are likely to fare better than the actual artists. And now the paradigm has shifted from brick and mortar shops to online tutorials and software.
Surely our beloved band in a box doesn't fall into the above category? Of course it does. But that's not a bad thing. The people who sell tools to the people who use those tools make money for a specific reason: They get paid immediately for offering a tangible product, and people are accustomed to paying for things they want. But the commonality between the gold prospectors who buy picks and shovels, and artists who buy art supplies and gear is that they buy before they have a product to sell... HOPING the tools will help them achieve what they're looking for. The vendors' customers include not only capable prospectors , artists and musicians, but also all of the dreamers who WANT to be in those groups. The world is a bottomless pit of dreams. Conversely, there is a worldwide glut of creative content, so its an uphill battle for artists to differentiate themselves from the herd in order to get anybody's attention. To continue the prospector analogy: most of us are digging in a mine that was depleted years ago. But the local hardware store will still be happy to sell you a pick and shovel.
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at the end of the day, the best reason for making music is that it brings you joy. Anything more than that is a bonus.
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at the end of the day, the best reason for making music is that it brings you joy. Anything more than that is a bonus.
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Our Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK are loaded with amazing add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is included with most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Mac packages, but you can unlock even more—including 20 unreleased RealTracks—by upgrading to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49.
Holiday Weekend Hours
As we hop into the Easter weekend, here are our holiday hours:
April 3 (Good Friday): 8:00 AM – 4:00 PM PDT
April 4 (Saturday): Closed
April 5 (Easter Sunday): Closed
April 6 (Easter Monday): Open regular hours
Wishing you an egg-cellent weekend!
— Team PG
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