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Hi all

I'm working with BiaB 2021 #818 and I'm finding that when I mute tracks on the mixer, they will unmute themselves whenever there is a 'back to normal' command in my chord chart bar settings.

I don't know if this is a bug or a deliberate new design, but if I mute something in the mixer then I don't really want to hear it at all until I decide to unmute it. Is anyone else noticing this?

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Mike:

It sounds like it's doing what you asked it to.
If "normal" means that it is audible, then you set it to "mute" to turn it off,
when it gets to a "back to normal" command, it SHOULD start playing again, that is, it should "unmute".

Am I missing something?
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Originally Posted By: Mike02392
Hi all

I'm working with BiaB 2021 #818 and I'm finding that when I mute tracks on the mixer, they will unmute themselves whenever there is a 'back to normal' command in my chord chart bar settings.

I don't know if this is a bug or a deliberate new design, but if I mute something in the mixer then I don't really want to hear it at all until I decide to unmute it. Is anyone else noticing this?


That is a new feature, which I personally like. When I mute a RT it turns red, when I unmute, it will go beak to green, because I've set it "Back to Normal" in the Bar Settings.

So, there is no issue. It's a nice enhancement (visually), confirming you mutes and back to normal setting in the arrangement.


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Originally Posted By: Lloyd S
Mike:

It sounds like it's doing what you asked it to.
If "normal" means that it is audible, then you set it to "mute" to turn it off,
when it gets to a "back to normal" command, it SHOULD start playing again, that is, it should "unmute".

Am I missing something?
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Previously, the 'mute' feature on the mixer would override any bar settings and that was very useful for me - there are many times I want to quickly mute a track and listen to the others.

If this is a new design feature then I find that rather annoying. If I want to listen to a piece with a particular track muted, I now have to put the volume slider down to zero (and don't even get me started on doing that for multiple tracks and trying to remember what volume they were all on before)!

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Originally Posted By: Mike02392
Hi all

I'm working with BiaB 2021 #818 and I'm finding that when I mute tracks on the mixer, they will unmute themselves whenever there is a 'back to normal' command in my chord chart bar settings.

I don't know if this is a bug or a deliberate new design, but if I mute something in the mixer then I don't really want to hear it at all until I decide to unmute it. Is anyone else noticing this?


That is a new feature, which I personally like. When I mute a RT it turns red, when I unmute, it will go beak to green, because I've set it "Back to Normal" in the Bar Settings.

So, there is no issue. It's a nice enhancement (visually), confirming you mutes and back to normal setting in the arrangement.



If it were just a visual change then I wouldn't mind, but it's also affecting the playback.

I'm not sure why the visual change was needed anyway - you could always previously tell whether a track was muted in the bar settings by watching the volume level indicator in the mixer.

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Actually, putting the slider down to zero doesn't work either, so I definitely need some help with this. I really don't want to have to mess with the bar settings in order to listen through a piece with a particular track muted :-/

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Mike,

Firstly, have you updated to build #822? If you are not sure if BIAB has picked it up automatically, have a look under "Help | About Band In A Box". The build will be in brackets.

Secondly, have you tried "Return to factory settings" under Options? Before using this, save your settings so that you can return to them if you wish. This is also under Options.

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Mike02392, I am 100% with you on this one.
While I do appreciate many new features to the mixer....
I do not understand the purpose of taking away ability to mute OvErRiDe bar setting. Seems like very important feature got lost in the process. In theory, you should be able to mute-override bar settings...How can you do it now without poking at all bar changes??

Noel, can you please explain, how does 822 or RTFS adresses this?

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Hi all, I've reported this as a bug to the developers. I agree, the Mute button should not be overridden by Bar Settings, it should be a master mute for that track - that's how any DAW functions, or any analog mixer.

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Simon,
Exellent!

MikeK, at first I also thought it was a good idea too, but playing around for a bit longer with different arrangements I found it to be a distraction and important feature loss. Perhaps... a wishlist item for the "mute" button to change color if it has a bar mute... For example turn orange while muted at the bar(s) as a visual indicator?

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Many thanks, Simon!

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Originally Posted By: Rustyspoon#
Perhaps... a wishlist item for the "mute" button to change color if it has a bar mute... For example turn orange while muted at the bar(s) as a visual indicator?


Great idea - I've added that to my bug report for consideration.


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