Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#642064 02/14/21 05:37 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 34
S
Stonker Offline OP
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
S
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 34
Is there any way I can get 2 chords for one beat? As the count goes '1 and 2'I want 3 chords so I get a passing chord on the 'and'.

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,789
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,789
Well, BIAB will generally have a workaround for everything but without jumping thru hoops, I would say No. But lets see what the more imaginative will come up with on this one.


BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.

DrDan #642071 02/14/21 06:27 AM
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,285
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,285
Norton music has expanded styles that may help:

http://nortonmusic.com/expanded.html

With expanded styles think of BiaB bars as cells. With expanded styles two cells can equal one bar so you can put chords on eight note timings, thus you can accomplish your goal.


Principal: Your child always causes trouble in school.
Me: My child causes trouble at home, do I ever call you?

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 734
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 734
I think you have to make the song twice as long, twice as fast tempo wise and then 2 measures equals 1 and then you can do it if I am not mistaken. But I have never done it myself. 2 beats in the old tempo would now be 1 beat in the new tempo so you would have twice as many spots for chords. Does this make sense?


My wife asked if I had seen the dog bowl. I told her I didn't even know he could.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 734
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 734
Bob Norton calls these expanded styles, he sells many versions of those, and I think this is now a part of BIAB itself as well.


My wife asked if I had seen the dog bowl. I told her I didn't even know he could.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 34
S
Stonker Offline OP
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
S
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 34
Originally Posted By: etcjoe
I think you have to make the song twice as long, twice as fast tempo wise and then 2 measures equals 1 and then you can do it if I am not mistaken. But I have never done it myself. 2 beats in the old tempo would now be 1 beat in the new tempo so you would have twice as many spots for chords. Does this make sense?


Yes, I did wonder about that but then thought it may screw the styles up. Also I think I will need a bar of 3/4, not sure if that will work

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,448
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,448
I concur with Mario and Etcjoe. And I’ve done this, making what was one measure across two. It often works but not always; depends on the style. The notation won’t be right, but the sound can be.

Nortonmusic.com has Expanded styles as mentioned that make it easier.

I can’t see any reason to have 3/4 enter into this. Maybe you could explain further.

Also, if you add MIDI chords by writing notes on the melody or soloist tracks, you can simulate what you want without doing anything with the time. Even if you don’t like the sound of MIDI as much as RealTracks, when mixed together, it could sound very effective.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Slate VSX, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 34
S
Stonker Offline OP
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
S
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 34
It may actually be '4 and 1' that I need chords on. The song is in 4/4. I'm just working on it but I think there may be a bar of 3/4 in the intro. I may get by without it

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,448
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,448
The answer is the same, no matter where your three consecutive chords on eighth notes appear.

And if I understand correctly, the intro is a one-time thing you can accomplish by F5 Bar Settings and making one measure 3 beats. Just use F5 on the following measure and set it back to 4.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Slate VSX, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 34
S
Stonker Offline OP
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
S
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 34
OK, I can try that, I just wonder how the styles will then work, I guess if I want 75bpm, I will have to choose one at 150?

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 34
S
Stonker Offline OP
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
S
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 34
I have inserted bars so my bars are now really 2/4 but the drummer is playing 16th beats rather than 8ths

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 34
S
Stonker Offline OP
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
S
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 34
I'm beginning to wonder if this song is too complex for BIAB or whether it's my knowledge with the program that's the issue

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,789
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,789
Originally Posted By: Stonker
I'm beginning to wonder if this song is too complex for BIAB or whether it's my knowledge with the program that's the issue


Likely a combination of both. Try telling the drummer to switch to halftime it for that section.


BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 34
S
Stonker Offline OP
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
S
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 34
maybe, it's because the keyboard part has lots of accents on the beat.

I am trying to re-create something like this. Listen from 35 secs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yan0y6O_7E

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,448
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,448
For RealDrums, they scale up and down pretty widely, but explore setting the Time Base in the RealDrums picker to Half-time. Or choose a new drum style based on an 8 pattern instead of 16.

And try a Half-time time base on your keyboard track.

This isn’t the easiest thing to do, what you are trying, and sometimes it just won’t work, plus it requires effort on your part to try various combinations.

About your question, yes, if your song was 75 bpm and you Expand it in the Edit menu, then look for tracks that sound good at 150.


BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Slate VSX, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 34
S
Stonker Offline OP
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
S
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 34
OK, maybe I will try again tomorrow. I guess it's half the fun of learning and I haven't even got my sax out yet :-)

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
P
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
P
Joined: Feb 2015
Posts: 7,954
You could create it manually as you can generate in a Utility track and edit in the Audio Edit with cut & paste.
Is this what you need:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6lpq2hoes8eqe84/8th-Chord-Changes.mp4?dl=0

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,789
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,789
Originally Posted By: Stonker
maybe, it's because the keyboard part has lots of accents on the beat.

I am trying to re-create something like this. Listen from 35 secs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yan0y6O_7E



That explains it, BIAB can't cover Prince! grin


BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 34
S
Stonker Offline OP
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
S
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 34
lol, it doesn't have to be Prince


That video may give me what I need if I understood it.

Band-in-a-Box for Windows
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 368
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 368
A few years ago I published a way to enter 3 chords on two beats, here in Windows Forum. This way one could enter a quarter note triplet of chords.

Tonnie van der Heide

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows Special Offers End Tomorrow (January 15th, 2026) at 11:59 PM PST!

Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PST on Thursday, January 15, 2026!

We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!

Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.

Another exciting new addition is the new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. You can view the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to process an entire track or focus on specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.

There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Windows to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!

Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.

If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® Special Offers Extended Until January 15, 2026!

Good news! You still have time to upgrade to the latest version of Band-in-a-Box® for Windows® and save. Our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® special now runs through January 15, 2025!

We've packed Band-in-a-Box® 2026 with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can process an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.

When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PST on January 15th, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.

Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® today! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

Happy New Year!

Thank you for being part of the Band-in-a-Box® community.

Wishing you and yours a very happy 2026—Happy New Year from all of us at PG Music!

Season's Greetings!

Wishing everyone a happy, healthy holiday season—thanks for being part of our community!

The office will be closed for Christmas Day, but we will be back on Boxing Day (Dec 26th) at 6:00am PST.

Team PG

Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: The Newly Designed Piano Roll Window

In this video, we explore the updated Piano Roll, complete with a modernized look and exciting new features. You’ll see new filtering options that make it easy to focus on specific note groups, smoother and more intuitive note entry and editing, and enhanced options for zooming, looping, and more.

Watch the video.

You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!

Band-in-a-Box 2026 Video: AI Stems & Notes - split polyphonic audio into instruments and transcribe

This video demonstrates how to use the new AI-Notes feature together with the AI-Stems splitter, allowing you to select an audio file and have it separated into individual stems while transcribing each one to its own MIDI track. AI-Notes converts polyphonic audio—either full mixes or individual instruments—into MIDI that you can view in notation or play back instantly.

Watch the video.

You can see all the 2026 videos on our forum!

Bonus PAK and 49-PAK for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®

With your version 2026 for Windows Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons for FREE! Or upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!

These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!

This Free Bonus PAK includes:

  • The 2026 RealCombos Booster PAK: -For Pro customers, this includes 27 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For MegaPAK customers, this includes 25 new RealTracks and 23 new RealStyles. -For UltraPAK customers, this includes 12 new RealStyles.
  • MIDI Styles Set 92: Look Ma! More MIDI 15: Latin Jazz
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 46: Piano & Organ
  • Instrumental Studies Set 24: Groovin' Blues Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 19: Songs with Vocals 9
  • Playable RealTracks Set 5
  • RealDrums Stems Set 9: Cool Brushes
  • SynthMaster Sounds Set 1 (with audio demos)
  • Android Band-in-a-Box® App (included)

Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:


  • 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyle.
  • FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
  • MIDI Styles Set 93: Look Ma! More MIDI 16: SynthMaster
  • MIDI SuperTracks Set 47: More SynthMaster
  • Instrumental Studies 25 - Soul Jazz Guitar Soloing
  • Artist Performance Set 20: Songs with Vocals 10
  • RealDrums Stems Set 10: Groovin' Sticks
  • SynthMaster Sounds & Styles Set 2 (sounds & styles with audio demos)

Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!

Forum Statistics
Forums57
Topics85,737
Posts795,511
Members39,944
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
Diddlysquat, pun61, smitoz, Jonnyfartpants, Gengiz
39,944 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 193
Noel96 116
DC Ron 114
rsdean 105
DrDan 102
dcuny 93
Today's Birthdays
brassauditions, EddieV, glauber, Holly, MyZone1958, PLS, Tobin - PG Music Inc.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5