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Is there any way I can get 2 chords for one beat? As the count goes '1 and 2'I want 3 chords so I get a passing chord on the 'and'.
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Well, BIAB will generally have a workaround for everything but without jumping thru hoops, I would say No. But lets see what the more imaginative will come up with on this one.
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Norton music has expanded styles that may help: http://nortonmusic.com/expanded.htmlWith expanded styles think of BiaB bars as cells. With expanded styles two cells can equal one bar so you can put chords on eight note timings, thus you can accomplish your goal.
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I think you have to make the song twice as long, twice as fast tempo wise and then 2 measures equals 1 and then you can do it if I am not mistaken. But I have never done it myself. 2 beats in the old tempo would now be 1 beat in the new tempo so you would have twice as many spots for chords. Does this make sense?
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Bob Norton calls these expanded styles, he sells many versions of those, and I think this is now a part of BIAB itself as well.
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I think you have to make the song twice as long, twice as fast tempo wise and then 2 measures equals 1 and then you can do it if I am not mistaken. But I have never done it myself. 2 beats in the old tempo would now be 1 beat in the new tempo so you would have twice as many spots for chords. Does this make sense? Yes, I did wonder about that but then thought it may screw the styles up. Also I think I will need a bar of 3/4, not sure if that will work
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I concur with Mario and Etcjoe. And I’ve done this, making what was one measure across two. It often works but not always; depends on the style. The notation won’t be right, but the sound can be.
Nortonmusic.com has Expanded styles as mentioned that make it easier.
I can’t see any reason to have 3/4 enter into this. Maybe you could explain further.
Also, if you add MIDI chords by writing notes on the melody or soloist tracks, you can simulate what you want without doing anything with the time. Even if you don’t like the sound of MIDI as much as RealTracks, when mixed together, it could sound very effective.
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It may actually be '4 and 1' that I need chords on. The song is in 4/4. I'm just working on it but I think there may be a bar of 3/4 in the intro. I may get by without it
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The answer is the same, no matter where your three consecutive chords on eighth notes appear.
And if I understand correctly, the intro is a one-time thing you can accomplish by F5 Bar Settings and making one measure 3 beats. Just use F5 on the following measure and set it back to 4.
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OK, I can try that, I just wonder how the styles will then work, I guess if I want 75bpm, I will have to choose one at 150?
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I have inserted bars so my bars are now really 2/4 but the drummer is playing 16th beats rather than 8ths
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I'm beginning to wonder if this song is too complex for BIAB or whether it's my knowledge with the program that's the issue
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I'm beginning to wonder if this song is too complex for BIAB or whether it's my knowledge with the program that's the issue Likely a combination of both. Try telling the drummer to switch to halftime it for that section.
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maybe, it's because the keyboard part has lots of accents on the beat. I am trying to re-create something like this. Listen from 35 secs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yan0y6O_7E
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For RealDrums, they scale up and down pretty widely, but explore setting the Time Base in the RealDrums picker to Half-time. Or choose a new drum style based on an 8 pattern instead of 16.
And try a Half-time time base on your keyboard track.
This isn’t the easiest thing to do, what you are trying, and sometimes it just won’t work, plus it requires effort on your part to try various combinations.
About your question, yes, if your song was 75 bpm and you Expand it in the Edit menu, then look for tracks that sound good at 150.
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OK, maybe I will try again tomorrow. I guess it's half the fun of learning and I haven't even got my sax out yet :-)
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That explains it, BIAB can't cover Prince! 
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lol, it doesn't have to be Prince
That video may give me what I need if I understood it.
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A few years ago I published a way to enter 3 chords on two beats, here in Windows Forum. This way one could enter a quarter note triplet of chords.
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