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#49980 12/17/09 05:34 AM
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Can I format my E drive (which is a3rd drive for my computer) and in the meantime work on the C and D drive? Or do I have to leave the whole computer alone while the new Terrabyte disc is formatting, whick takes several hours.

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Sandra,

My experience is that formatting leaves very little of the processor readily available for other programs.

You could boot up your computer using a Linux LiveCD (say, Ubuntu) and then use the disk partitioning program to format the hard drive to NTFS. This is what I did with my recent 1 TB drive. It only takes about 5 - 10 mins. If you're interested, private message me and I'll outline the procedure I used.

I'm not sure that this procedure detects and decommisions bad sectors but I have used it on many hard drives over the last couple of years and have not had any problems.

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Ah, ok, thanks Noel.
I could use Knoppix for that matter.
But if isn`t it the same effect as doing the fast formatting option ind regular Windows, which also does not discover bad sectors. That takes only some minutes too!

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Yep, Knoppix would do the job. As far as I'm aware, the Linux formatting process is performed pretty quickly for all formats. Oren might know a little more about this. When I install Linux, ext3 formatting seems to happen at the same speed as ntfs.

I also use a Linux LiveCD to partition my hard drives. It's much easier and quicker.


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If the drive is working ok then why not just delete everything on it?

If it is not working ok or you suspect something is wrong then I would format it and leave the computer alone until it was done, maybe while you are busy with something else or sleeping. It could be very important to block out those bad sectors.

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FWIW, modern HDD's have spare sectors in their low level format that are used specifically for remapping bad sectors in the user accessible portion of the disk.

Thus, if the drive detects a failing sector it will move the data to one of these spare sectors and map out the bad one. You will only see bad sectors reported by Windows or other OS's once these spare sectors are all used up. In which case it is probably time to scrap the drive - it's seriously on it's way out.

For this reason, while a long format can be a security blanket, I doubt that it has any real benefit.


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Can I format my E drive (which is a3rd drive for my computer) and in the meantime work on the C and D drive? Or do I have to leave the whole computer alone while the new Terrabyte disc is formatting, whick takes several hours.

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The reason I bought a new drive is that my old one, unfortunately the "known" Seagate 7200.11 series, is unaccessible.
It shows up in my explorer, but when I click a folder it somehow crashes and doesn`t show up in the explorer anymore, neither in the Windows Harddisc Manangment facility (where you can partition and format your drives, dunno the english term). Until I restart the computer, then it shows up again, but doesn`t work.

I did a "fast formattin", but to no avail. The new Data on it behaved the same strange way. Now the Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 series is a known issue. they made firmware upgrades for them, that needed to be installed when still working. I tried to get that upgrade, but the website didn`t work and Seagate was too dumb to send me the patch. I can still try to send it back to seagate as it has a 3-yr warrante.

Now I`ll attach the new HD and format it, but since it takes so long to format a 1 TB drive i asked for other options.
Is it advisable or even possibel to do a "fast format" process with a new Harddrive? So it doesn`t search for bad sectors. I mean, the new one should be ok, but then again, who knows,...


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