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I've noticed when you have a song looped the default is 3 times. Usually on each pass the performance is different. So if you happen to like the performance of the second loop how can you save that so that it plays if like that from the beginning and not just the second time it loops?
I hope that makes sense.
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JeffB720,
The way you phrased your question makes perfect sense. Band-in-a-Box calls each "loop" a chorus. Look to the right of the song title and you'll see the number 3 for the default of three choruses.
There are multiple ways to accomplish what you want. One suggestion, when you hear something you like, use "Save As" to relabel the song file and save the song. That way you don't have to worry about accidentally losing what you've got.
One way is to freeze each track and then move the frozen tracks to the utility tracks. Repopulate the main tracks, regenerate. Once you have what you want, mute the part of each performance you don't want and unmute the part of each performance you want.
Another way would be to render all tracks as a stereo mix, import the mix into the audio track, convert to an Artist Performance Track and then move the Artist Performance Track to an unused track. Again unmute what you want and mute what you don't want. This method has the advantage that you can create a very dense mix composed of as many tracks as you want.
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Jim is correct except he doesn't complete the actions to have the 2nd chorus play all 3 chorus's - beginning at Bar 1 chorus 1 and playing through the other two chorus's.
His third option is the correct procedure except saving to an Artist Performance Track is optional. You can leave the track on the Audio Channel without any issue.
Here's the steps to how I would save the second chorus so Chorus 2 would play all three Chorus's.
<<So if you happen to like the performance of the second loop how can you save that so that it plays if like that from the beginning and not just the second time it loops? >>
Render the song to a WAV file and save it in a location you can find.
Import that WAV file onto the Audio Channel.
As example I load a BIAB RealStyle demo file and it's 3 Chorus's each 32 bars then generate the song.
After you've exported the song as a stereo WAV file, import that WAV onto the Audio Channel:
If you open the Audio Editor Window note that bars 1-32 across the top each have a one in brackets (1)
Bars of the second chorus that begins at bar 33 start over at 1 and have a two in brackets (2)
Bars of the third chorus that begins at bar 65 start over at 1 and have a three in brackets (3)
Bar 97 will have end and the following bars will continue with bar 33 and have a three in brackets (3)
This naming convention makes it easy to select the entire second chorus and copy and paste the second chorus at bar 1 of the first and third chorus's respectively. I also select the Snap button so the box is populated with a check mark and this ensures the entire chorus will be highlighted and selected. It also ensures the paste command begins at the very beginning of the chorus bar 1.
Solo the Audio Channel and loop it to repeat as many times as desired and all three chorus's will play the second chorus from the Audio Channel and the other 7 channels will not sound out.
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if i'm right the solution is quite simple. there is a song option default that says 'vary style in middle choruses' and other settings you might like to play around with including pushes etc
take a look at song settings. i think that that default means chorus 2 is played with the b style which is diffent to the a style used in chorus 1 and 3. if that's what you like set all the part markers to green and the b style will play all the way through
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take a look at song settings. i think that that default means chorus 2 is played with the b style which is diffent to the a style used in chorus 1 and 3. if that's what you like set all the part markers to green and the b style will play all the way through That was my first thought also. I never use choruses/loops. I only have one long chorus by adding measures until the entire song is in linear form, i.e. That way I have total control over everything,i.e. part changes, chords, styles, etc. Jeff, you may consider unfolding the song; that will put in the linear form I described above. You can do that in edit/songform/unfold. Also Jeff a BiaB chorus is one time through the song. Its a jazz term where the musicians would play the lead, jam/improvise the second time through the song, then the last time play the lead again.
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i should also have said uncheck the box that says vary style in middle choruses.
and like Mario i always unfold songs into one long linear format (unless its very simple) as taht gives you total control. and if you like the b style which is usually busier than the a style, just use all green part markers.
or if you want to keep the chorus/loop format untick the box in song settings and again use all green part markers
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Thanks Mario,
I do unfold as you said the entire song. I just noticed that after the first chorus when it goes into the verse it may change the drum beat or intensity of the instruments and then it might back off again when it hits the chorus again.
I'll take a look at what you were saying about the A and B styles. I actually thought that was just for an emphasis on drum fills for that measure so maybe that's the problem. Thanks to all who answered.
I'll figure this out.
I'm also using a very old version of BIAB so I probably need to download the latest version.
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I'll take a look at what you were saying about the A and B styles. I actually thought that was just for an emphasis on drum fills for that measure so maybe that's the problem. Thanks to all who answered.
................ The B version is a more busy version of that style. I think of it this way. In terms of verse, chorus, ending, etc the modern way of thinking, think of the A version,less dense version, for a verse while the B version, a more dense version, for a chorus. Most songs have differences between verses and choruses and in BiaB terminology that is versions A and B. I hope this helps. PS - many times I will use a B version for an entire song or start with a B version and go to an A for effect. Nothing is set in stone here so use the versions as you wish.
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I read the question as "how to keep part of a created performance". My mistake.
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No worries Jim. I appreciate your response. I still learned from it.
Thanks!
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Try UNFOLDING the song in the song form dropdown to ONE CHORUS.
You have more control over what is happening. Simply make sure the part markers are all the same color. This should assure the chords and the style groove are similar to the previous one of the same color. The solo tracks may continue to be different.
I always unfold everything to the linear form before I start working. Always.
Further on this.... if this does not give the desired results.... there's another easy way. Move it to a DAW and you can literally cut copy and paste the exact part anywhere you want. Extremely easy to do in a DAW.
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