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Asking for a poster on the BIAB FB group.

Can BIAB support turning a monitor 90 degrees? They want to have a longer song showing. They know about fonts and row count.


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Is this rotation in the same form as the way a tablet or mobile phone display can automatically orientate when rotated, or more related to the display on a physical computer screen? Windows allows the display orientation to be changed to portrait. Not sure about the mouse operation though.

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Not sure, but I’m guessing the latter


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This is BB full screen portrait:

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PL, what method did you use to make the screen in Portrait mode?


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PL, what method did you use to make the screen in Portrait mode?

What you pointed to in your pic in the Windows Display Settings.
You just need to turn your head and your mouse sideways smile
You used to be able to do this with previous version of Windows:
CTRL + ALT + Up Arrow changes to Landscape mode.
CTRL + ALT + Down Arrow changes to Landscape (Flipped) mode.
CTRL + ALT + Left Arrow changes to Portrait mode.
CTRL + ALT + Right Arrow changes to Portrait (Flipped) mode.

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PL, what method did you use to make the screen in Portrait mode?

What you pointed to in your pic in the Windows Display Settings.
You just need to turn your head and your mouse sideways smile
You used to be able to do this with previous version of Windows:
CTRL + ALT + Up Arrow changes to Landscape mode.
CTRL + ALT + Down Arrow changes to Landscape (Flipped) mode.
CTRL + ALT + Left Arrow changes to Portrait mode.
CTRL + ALT + Right Arrow changes to Portrait (Flipped) mode.

I think I'm still at a loss crazy unless the sentence "What you pointed to in your pic in the Windows Display Settings." is the method you used. Are any of the above 4 methods you also listed workable solutions?


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PL, what method did you use to make the screen in Portrait mode?

What you pointed to in your pic in the Windows Display Settings.
You just need to turn your head and your mouse sideways smile
You used to be able to do this with previous version of Windows:
CTRL + ALT + Up Arrow changes to Landscape mode.
CTRL + ALT + Down Arrow changes to Landscape (Flipped) mode.
CTRL + ALT + Left Arrow changes to Portrait mode.
CTRL + ALT + Right Arrow changes to Portrait (Flipped) mode.

I think I'm still at a loss crazy unless the sentence "What you pointed to in your pic in the Windows Display Settings." is the method you used. Are any of the above 4 methods you also listed workable solutions?


I tried your method last night and yes the screen went into portrait view, i.e. 90 degrees clockwise. The taskbar was on the right side of the monitor and the mouse was very hard to control. I loaded BiaB and it also was sideways, that is the menus were on the left side of the monitor. It was like the view of BiaB laying on its side! Thus Pipeline's head turning comments.

You can use BiaB in portrait mode but you must physically turn your monitor 90 degrees.

I surmise that Pipeline's picture was captured via print screen and rotated 90 degrees in a photoshop type or paint program.


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Yes, what I tried worked, but the monitor needed to be physically rotated (or I laid down sideways).

And as for mouse control? Yes, that might take some getting used to.


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I apologize if it wasn’t initially clear, since I’m just relaying someone else’s question. Yes, I believe the assumption that they wanted to physically rotate the monitor 90 degrees, then make BIAB fill the screen in a way that allows for more rows at the same height as before.

It makes sense, actually, as one way to see more of your song. It may be the best way if you want the fonts to stay large.

Thank you, Pipeline!


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On a tablet like my Microsoft Surface Pro when I rotate the screen things automatically change to portrait or landscape mode depending upon the tablets orientation. The Surface Pro has a native screen resolution of 2736 x 1824 so rotating to portrait looses little of the normal menu layout. The only problem is a 12" screen at the native resolution is almost illegible (way too small for aged eyes), but scaling up the display to 150% makes things legible.

At the cell size Pipeline has in his example pic you are not going to see many cells anyway in either orientation.


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Right, tablets like my iPad do this rotation automatically. For a desktop, though, I think there are no such sensors in a monitor and changing the display rotation has to be done in the OS.


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That would be the way it's done yes. Not too many monitors that will stand in portrait orientation though - unless you remove the stand and place the monitor on a music stand. This is what I used to do with pdf music sheets so that I effectively had an A4 sized display. Not being touch screen and the mouse orientation being different made it a little difficult unless you have keyboard shortcuts. A 'keyboard on your keyboard' doesn't really work though!!


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Amazon has rotating monitor stands can be used in portrait mode:

https://www.amazon.com/Computer-Free-Standing-Adjustable-Rotation-HT05B-001/dp/B07Q79ZZJ6/ref=sxin_10_ac_d_pm?ac_md=4-1-QmV0d2VlbiAkMjUgYW5kICQ1MA%3D%3D-ac_d_pm&cv_ct_cx=rotating+monitor+stand&dchild=1&keywords=rotating+monitor+stand&pd_rd_i=B07Q79ZZJ6&pd_rd_r=5c1959b1-ae60-48ec-838b-6addd0310a26&pd_rd_w=NYQhl&pd_rd_wg=3S0mi&pf_rd_p=1996aa5c-bfb7-40b7-b677-a9bfb33f2c53&pf_rd_r=68WJCJH3PHRXK91XTXY8&psc=1&qid=1616615123&sr=1-2-22d05c05-1231-4126-b7c4-3e7a9c0027d0

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=rotating+monitor+stand+24+inch&crid=1JDYD6VE8ZZNG&sprefix=rotating+monitor+stand+%2Caps%2C178&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_2_23


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Yes, each of my monitors is already on an arm that clamps to my desk, and at the end of the arm the mounting plate can rotate. Pretty common feature.


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You should have that option also in the manufacturers video card option.
I have a few monitors that the mount bracket rotates, like Dell they all have that, some you need to unscrew the 4 screws holding the monitor and rotate.

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