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Hey, nice to see you guys are still friends. I don't think it's gotten "toxic" here at all, and most people seem to be agreement as to how to treat unwanted guests anyway. As far as America bashing goes most comments were against the administration(s) and not the citizens. I think that is pretty standard the world over. What makes us Europeans nervous is that when things go as wrong as they have done in America (Banks, Bush..etc) things can get dangerous. Your "socialists" by the way would still be classed as right wing in most European countries, so go easy on them, they haven't done at all bad.
I don't think threads like this do any harm, and I am surprised it went as far as it did. A positive side effect is that I have got to know some of you much better than a standard introduction would have allowed.
Those news items were a bit of a surprise to me as I have not lived in England for about thirty years, and back then that would not have happened. So the world has become a crazy place, but it is also what you make it.
I'm not a churchgoer, and for me Christmas is just a few days off, but I do subscribe to "Peace on Earth to all men (and women)" and a few other ethics, as I guess most of us do.
The "non toxic" level of this thread is a compliment to all of you. Merry Christmas.
Chris
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I really haven't seen much of politics here, to be honest. It's kind of refreshing to see ONE thread which discusses a 'NEW DAWN', so to speak. What a messy one! LOL!
Anyway, I think there's more social chatter going on about music than anything else here in these parts. Nuttin' wrong with that, IMHO.
Happy Holidays!
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Nahhh! That's not making a valid distinction. That's just letting a thief get away. I say if he steals from you then you have the right to take him out. Oh give him/her a chance to halt and put the stuff down, then leave. But to just let a person steal your stuff? That's just plain idiodic to me. First of all, if a person broke into your house, that means he/she most likely broke a window or kicked the door in. That means he damaged your property. I'm one of those who believes in God's law. Read Deuteronomy 19.
Yeah well maybe you should read the 6th commandment, 'thou shalt not kill' . Or why not try Jesus,.. 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone". Aren't you supposed to believe in that?
Do you really need to 'take him out'? just because he steals your stuff? I'd think again about that one if I were you. Is damaging your property grounds for taking his life ? I can't believe your pastor would approve or your God for that matter, but hey what do I know?. I'm just a 'commie- loving' non-American who's obviously motivated only by hatred and jealousy of how great America is. It couldn't possibly be the case that any non-American could have something valid to contribute to this debate, could it?
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Isn't Scotland in Ohio? I did here once there was one somewhere off the beaten path somewhere near the North Atlantic...........oh well....no matter.............;)
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err..."hear"....( ahh...Jack Daniels...;)
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AlanS. said:" Yeah well maybe you should read the 6th commandment, 'thou shalt not kill' . Or why not try Jesus,.. 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone". Aren't you supposed to believe in that?Yup. Absolutely. I've not killed a single person in my life so far. I also keep that 6th commandment in the forfront of my mind. But let's not twist the scriptures. There were a whole ton of commandements before the 10. Remember? Moses smashed those plates on the rocks. Then he had a bunch of people killed.  AlanS. said: Do you really need to 'take him out'? just because he steals your stuff? I'd think again about that one if I were you. Is damaging your property grounds for taking his life ?Only if he don't stop when I tell him to. I'll also fire a warning shot so now he has a choice. Either stop or ... ya know.  Ya see, American politicians have gotten soft on the law. They've changed it from law to a silly words and money game. Slap the drug dealer on the back of the hand, take all the money they can find from him, then turn him back out. The ones that have no money goto prison. Well, Merry Christmas everyone. Hope it's the best for ya'll there ever was. And don't worry Alan. I promise not to shoot Santa Claus. 
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Merry Christmas Sinbad, Quote:
Hey, nice to see you guys are still friends.
Swanman and I have had a few conversations on the PG forum and most of the time we've been in agreement. Just because we disagree about news channels or presidents doesn't mean that we can't be cyber friends. We've never met, but if we did I'd bet that we would slam a few beers and play a few tunes.
We all need to to get past the thinking that if we disagree, then we can't be friends.
That's what humanity is all about! We all are different. That's okay! Actually it's good. The world would be a really boring place if we were all the same.
We just need to accept each other and at times, we agree to disagree. It doesn't mean that we don't treat each other with respect.
So "Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night".
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LOL Swanman, A bag of coal is much better than a lump of coal. You could keep yourself warm on a cold lonely night with a whole bag! Bob
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Alan, I don't understand this comment. Quote:
American culture is still completely caught up with its frontier myths of summary justice and rights gun ownership and this complicates the matter by tacitly encouraging vigillante style reactions that bypass the legal process and the rule of law. If America truly feels that the right to kill any person that intrudes on ones property whatever the circumstances or level of personal threat, then why does your legal system not reflect this? Could it be because the majority of people in the states actually feel this would be wrong?
I am a gun owner, I have a concealed carry weapons permit. That legally allows me to carry my pistol in certain locations concealed. It is not 007, a license to kill. There is NO right to kill a person intruding on your property. However, the laws of the land ALLOW you to defend yourself, and not only in your home or property. If I am carrying my weapon, something I do very rarely, and I am put in a position where I feel my life is in jeopardy, then I am, at least in my state, allowed to use deadly force to protect myself. After the incident, it MAY be for a jury to decide whether or not I made the correct decision at the time.
In the case of Mr. Hussein, the judge ordered him to jail, but it does not indicate that he was tried by a jury of his peers. Since I do not understand the British legal system, nor make any claims to it, was there a jury trial, and was he found guilty by that jury? If so, then the judge acted correctly. If not, then the judge, and the British legal system, is acting a judge, jury and executioner in this matter. It is simply the judge's opinion.
As to the final question in your statement, the upswing of gun ownership and purchases, and the feeling of needing to protect yourself in the last 15 months has been incredible. In our county, which is a highly Democratic, highly liberal, very left leaning area, the number of gun purchases and permits to carry have increased by hundreds of percent.
This story was published in September, 2008
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/377385_gunpermits02.html
In the time since then, and I can't find the article now, the number of carry permits issued in our county has quadrupled...or more, over last year. Earlier this year, there were over 10,000 requests for permits.
So, I believe that we are seeing a renaissance, in the United States, for fear of being a crime victim, and also out of fear of those minority who are so loud, that would remove our Constitutional right to bear arms, where the number of people who will legally own and carry weapons is increasing.
Gary
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My definition of 'Gun Control'
Hitting what I aimed at! Repeatedly!
Gary
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Alan, Quote:
Yeah well maybe you should read the 6th commandment, 'thou shalt not kill' . Or why not try Jesus,.. 'Let he who is without sin cast the first stone". Aren't you supposed to believe in that?
Actually, that is a mistranslation. It should read 'Thou shall not do murder.' Quite a difference. As to Jesus' comment, the Pharasses that he was addressing were attempting to stone a prostitute, whom they were claiming should be stoned for her sins. In fact, she *was* in violation of the law, but it was also known to Jesus that the sins of these Pharissees (sp) would prevent them from stoning her, they were as guilty as she was.
Gary
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My definition of 'Gun Control'
Hitting what I aimed at! Repeatedly!
Gary
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is right on TARGET!!!
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Gary,
I find it sad that people should feel so unsafe that they feel they must carry weapons, concealed or not. Although as you point out you don't carry it all the time, it still amazes me. In Europe this is unheard of. If as you say gun ownership is on the rise, then some questions as to how a society can spiral out of control like that are allowed. Is it a real threat or are you being bombarded with newsreels 24 hours a day in a sort of brainwashing? All one sees on TV these days is violence either real or acted. I'm not saying that TV and film are the root cause of violence, but they play a major role in spreading its acceptance. In a country of over 200 million there are bound to be some evil people around, so could it be that the threat is out of proportion?
Unfortunately in Europe the trend toward more violence is becoming apparent with the influx of immigrants from Eastern European countries. Maybe it is because they were recently at war with each other, but the level of violence in some of the Balkan and ex-Russian nationals is quite discerning. I doubt whether Europeans will arm themselves as Americans do because we don't have a tradition of carrying guns. Mind you I can't speak for the next generation. I must admit I wouldn't feel safe anywhere if I thought that the guy on the next table had a gun.
Maybe the world has gone mad.
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I fear more in the big city than I do in the dark forest ..
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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My commentary for better or worse: The simplest solution is almost inward knowledge or common sense. You must destroy the source which perpetuates this TOTAL unfairness, that which causes it to linger. In this case (and many others) this source is most likely the lawyers who thrive on the miseries of others. And they are "excused" from all judgement. The judges who play god, are even worse. What other profession can you work at, and get paid whether you win or lose, or whether you are defending a innocent victem or serial killer. Not all lawyers fall under this category, but you know the ones I mean. And of course the ultimate scum are the polititians who make laws which cause fear and frustration, not justice, among the public. Can anyone remember how many of these laws passed were by people they voted for? I can't. It seems like once the polititians enters the "royal kingdom", they forget all promises to the people who voted for them. With that fear, comes control, ... and they are doing well ... they are doing very well. And probably most important regarding disintegration of the fabric of society, are the media moguls. The media has historically been gaining strength in controlling our polititians (and consequently any laws they pass). see this link for more info on this. http://freedocumentaries.org/int.php?filmID=87We bitch and complain and in many cases our tax dollars pay their salary, and yet we live in fear of a country with no justice. I remember years ago some friends of mine were in the Peace Corps in the Ukraine. They told me that the people had a choice of mail delivery... either through the government mail system or through the ukraine "mafia" mail system, ... both were equally bad and corrupt. This is more often than not found in third world countries who are extremely in dept .... oh I forgot, .. we are one of them ... If i have offended anyone who fall into any of these categories .... all i can say is ... get used to it.
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I find it sad that people should feel so unsafe that they feel they must carry weapons, concealed or not. Although as you point out you don't carry it all the time, it still amazes me. In Europe this is unheard of. If as you say gun ownership is on the rise, then some questions as to how a society can spiral out of control like that are allowed.
Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, the criminals are going to have guns. Therefore it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the more law abiding citizens that have guns there are, the safer they are from the criminal element.
The last apartment I lived in with my son was so bad after dark that when my son came home at night, he would call ahead and I meet him outside to escort him into the apartment. And yes I was armed.
I also have a conceal and carry permit, but I rarely carry it, but if I know I'm going to be in a high crime area it will be with me.
Most American police will tell you that it's (unfortunately) your responsibility to protect yourself, and it's their responsibility to capture and prosecute the criminals after you've became a victim. I'd rather not be a victim.
And for your info, it's not the people with conceal and carry permits who are commiting gun crimes. The number of gun crimes commtied by these people is almost statistically %0.
If you want to read a related story, google info about a Texas congresswoman who did have a conceal and carry permit. She was meeting her parents at MacDonalds for lunch. She left her gun in the console of her car. An armed lunatic with an illegally obtained weapon came in and started killing people. Her parents were killed right in front of her eyes. She still regrets to this day that her parents, (and a lot of other people), might still be alive if she had kept her gun in her purse. I think he was killed by a citizen, but it may have been the cops. She's now a very strong advocate for our second ammendment rights and encourages law abiding citizens to get conceal and carry permits.
Stop judging a society that you clearly don't understand.
Bob
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I got the restuarant wrong. It was Luby's. Couple of other details too. Story below. Quote:
On October 16, 1991, Hennard drove his 1987 Ford Ranger pickup truck through the front window of a Luby's Cafeteria at 1705 East Central Texas Expressway in Killeen, yelled "This is what Bell County has done to me!", then opened fire on the restaurant's patrons and staff with a Glock 17 pistol and later a Ruger P89. He stalked, shot, and killed 23 people while wounding another 20 before committing suicide. About 80 people were in the restaurant at the time. The first victim was local veterinarian Dr. Michael Griffith, who ran up to the driver's side of the pickup truck to offer assistance after the truck came through the window. During the shooting, Hennard approached Suzanna Gratia Hupp and her parents. Hupp had actually brought a handgun to the Luby's Cafeteria that day but had left it in her vehicle because laws in force at the time forbade citizens from carrying firearms. According to her later testimony in favor of Missouri's HB-1720 bill and in general, after she realized that her firearm was not in her purse but "a hundred feet away in [her] car," her father charged at Hennard in an attempt to subdue him but was gunned down; a short time later, Hupp's mother was also shot and killed. Hupp later expressed regret for abiding by the law in question by leaving her firearm in her car rather than keeping it on her person. One patron, Tommy Vaughn, threw himself through a plate-glass window to allow others to escape. Hennard allowed a mother and her four-year-old child to leave. He reloaded several times and still had ammunition remaining when he committed suicide by shooting himself in the head after being cornered and wounded by police. [1][2][3]
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Fatalities from this shooting included:
Name Age Home
Patricia Brawn Carney 57 Belton, Texas
Jimmie Eugene Caruthers 48 Austin, Texas
Kriemhild A. Davis 62 Killeen, Texas
Lt. Col. Steven Charles Dody 43 Fort Hood, Texas
Al Gratia 71 Copperas Cove, Texas
Ursula Edith Marie Gratia 67 Copperas Cove, Texas
Debra Ann Gray 33 Copperas Cove, Texas
Dr. Michael Edward Griffith 48 Copperas Cove, Texas
Venice Ellen Henehan 70 Metz, Missouri
Clodine Delphia Humphrey 63 Marlin, Texas
Sylvia Mathilde King 30 Marlin, Texas
Zona Mae Lynn 45 Marlin, Texas
Connie Dean Peterson 55 Austin, Texas
Ruth Marie Pujol 36 Copperas Cove, Texas
Su-zann Neal Rashott 30 San Antonio, Texas
John Raymond Romero Jr 33 Copperas Cove, Texas
Thomas Earl Simmons 55 Killeen, Texas
Glen Arval Spivey 44 Harker Heights, Texas
Nancy Faye Stansbury 44 Harker Heights, Texas
Olgica Andonovsk Taylor 45 Waco, Texas
James Walter Welsh 75 Waco, Texas
Lula Belle Welsh 64 Waco, Texas
Iva Juanita Williams 64 Temple, Texas
[edit] Consequences
Reacting to the massacre,[4] in 1995 the Texas Legislature passed a shall-issue gun law, which requires that all qualifying applicants be issued a Concealed Handgun License (Texas's required permit to carry concealed weapons), removing the personal discretion of the issuing authority to deny such licenses. The law had been campaigned for by Suzanna Hupp, who was present at the Luby's massacre where both of her parents were shot and killed. Hupp later expressed sadness for abiding by the law in question by leaving her firearm in her car rather than keeping it on her person.[5] Hupp testified across the country in support of concealed-handgun laws, and was elected to the Texas House of Representatives in 1996.[6] The law was signed by then-Governor George W. Bush and became part of a broad movement to allow U.S. citizens to carry concealed firearms.[7]
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Alan & Sinbad,
Read the list of the deceased. It also doesn't include the 20 who were wounded.
I wonder if the two of you could look these families in the eye and tell them you don't think any of the law abiding citizens there that day should have been armed.
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I find it sad that people should feel so unsafe that they feel they must carry weapons, concealed or not. Although as you point out you don't carry it all the time, it still amazes me.
I'll handle this a little bit at a time. When I lived on the east coast, outside of Philadelphia, I was assaulted three times, once at knifepoint. One of the other times was a gang of young men and a dog (German Shepard) who attempted to rob me. I have had my car broken into, my home broken into, and suffered financial loss from crimes. That was before I purchased my first gun. Living in the Pacific Northwest now, a liberal Democrat bastion of 'let people do what they want' I have not been robbed or assaulted, however, my parents home was broken into and many things stolen. I know a young man who was shot outside of a bar over a simple game of pool, where the perpetrator demanded his money back, and then went to his car, retrieved an illegal gun, and proceeded to shoot this step son of a friend of mine. In Seattle, in the area around University of Washington, there are a group of people referred to as 'Ave Rats', and they are a criminal element who often are homeless, on drugs, or otherwise criminal. They assaulted a roommate of my boss's son for NO APPARENT REASON, other than he was 'just there.'
So, within my own life, and those who touch my life, there is a definite need for some sort of protection. When asked why he carried a gun, a pro gun carry individual replied 'Because I can't carry a cop!' This is unfortunate. I live in an area where over the past five years, we are seeing an increase in all sorts of crimes. Statistics show this. Of course, statistics can be made to show anything, but it's hard to not show an increase in crime.
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In Europe this is unheard of. If as you say gun ownership is on the rise, then some questions as to how a society can spiral out of control like that are allowed. Is it a real threat or are you being bombarded with newsreels 24 hours a day in a sort of brainwashing? All one sees on TV these days is violence either real or acted. I'm not saying that TV and film are the root cause of violence, but they play a major role in spreading its acceptance. In a country of over 200 million there are bound to be some evil people around, so could it be that the threat is out of proportion?
While I will agree that in Europe, people don't carry guns, it is because of the laws that restrict it. How does the crime rate look like in the EU? Over here, two reports were released, one by the Brady Organization, which is vehemently anti gun. That report ranked the 50 states in order of their 'gun control' posture. The second report came from a law enforcement agency ranking the violent crime statistics by state. Unsurprisingly, those states that the Brady organization listed as having the most restrictive gun control also topped the list of the states with the most violent crime. In fact, the states with the lowest Brady rankings, meaning that they supported gun owners and gun rights, also had the lowest violent crime rates.
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Unfortunately in Europe the trend toward more violence is becoming apparent with the influx of immigrants from Eastern European countries. Maybe it is because they were recently at war with each other, but the level of violence in some of the Balkan and ex-Russian nationals is quite discerning. I doubt whether Europeans will arm themselves as Americans do because we don't have a tradition of carrying guns. Mind you I can't speak for the next generation. I must admit I wouldn't feel safe anywhere if I thought that the guy on the next table had a gun.
Maybe the world has gone mad.
The world went mad a long time ago. If the guy at the table next to you DID have a gun, it is doubtful that you would even know it. Gun owners and people who carry guns do not have a big neon sign over their head that says 'Gun Owner.' Nor do they look any different than any one else. They may be a little more perceptive of what is going on around them, especially in an area known for crime.
Every month I get a magazine from the National Rifle Association, and in that magazine is a section called the Armed Citizen. They detail a few situations each month where someone used a weapon to defend themselves, families or property from a criminal. Most of this is often a home break in, and often the criminal is armed in some form or another. Just simple, every day people who have decided that they would not be a victim.
One of the biggest stories over here recently was a teen who was beaten, and eventually died, by other teens. He was beaten by a baseball bat. Two things to say about that. Number one, if he had been over 21, and been carrying a pistol, he could have defended himself, and possibly the attackers would have died. Of course, if that *had* happened, then all the anti gun nuts would be going crazy that a person used a gun and killed teenagers. Since this violent and horrific killing, there has been no call or cry for a National Bat Registration, no call for people to have police checks before they can purchase a bat, no chants for Bat Control legislation, no one calling for Bats to be only on approved and controlled baseball fields.
Secondly, if there had been an armed citizen, someone there who was carrying a concealed weapon, that person could have been a hero, and saved that teens life. No one was.
Crime happens. It happens too often. It happens everywhere. People are sent to jail, but instead of paying for the crime in a manner which befits the crime, they are sentenced, and then eventually let go due to 'prison overpopulation' or 'we think he'll be okay.' or they aren't even sent to jail at all. So many of the criminals are repeat offenders who have been released from prison, or never sent to prison. If you are sent to prison, there is a very good reason for it. Even those individuals on Death Row, something that some people find 'inhumane' (tell that to the family of the victims, usually, and they'll laugh at the concept) have multiple avenues of appeal, and often are 20 or more years before sentencing is carried out, if at all.
When you mean what you say, and say what you mean, and provide the actions to follow up, people believe you. When you say something, and then don't do anything about it, it just leaves you as a wimp, and those predatory individuals eat wimps for lunch. Unfortunately, in our country, we have too many wimps in our legislature and justice systems.
Does this shed any kind of light?
Gary
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New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!
Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!
With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
- Playable RealTracks Set 4
- RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
- SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
- 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
- Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
- RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: VST3 Plugin Support
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® now includes support for VST3 plugins, alongside VST and AU. Use them with MIDI or audio tracks for even more creative possibilities in your music production.
Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
Video: Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®: Using VST3 Plugins
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