The possibility is always there, but I doubt it, since there is no evidence for that in any other case or programs that I'm using (includ BIAB 2020). Also i have tried running it in safe mode, just to see if there is any clash with other software or driver.
As soon as i can, I'll upgrade it again and inform here how it's going.
1. The issue with the Open processes came back (Every time I open BIAB song - another processes is open. when I close - the process stay open. closing BIAB - all processes stay open.
2. Playing a song (double click) - when it open, I hear king of "Knak" or "Bzz" (That's happens only if i open a song. while opening BIAB without a song it's OK)?
3. Push the play button - the song runing, but no sound at all.
4. Push the play button without a song - OK.
5. Some songs running fine some time, and some time don't (No sound).
6. My feeling is that opening a song take much longer than 2020.
7. I upgraded to 2021 - "run as administrator", and didn't touch any of the definition yet, so it should be like before.
What may be somewhat of a temporary solution for you Goldy is to use Pipelines tip (thank you Pipleine) and run biab 2020 from the same folder as biab 2021, what you do is copy the six bb exe's from biab 2020 to a folder on your desktop, Rename by adding 20 beofre the .exe, then copy to your biab 2021 folder, and create shortcuts for the 32 and 64 bit 2020 to your desktop.
Note you are not replacing any of the exe's in biab 2021 you are just adding 2020 exe's to that folder. See the screenshot below of how it appears in my bb folder.
It will run fine will see all the new realtracks, though you won't have the new features of say Utility tracks.
And you will still be able to launch biab 2021 fron that folder too, using biab 2021 shortcuts.
Otherwise hope you get this years biab 2021 problems sorted out.
Windows 10 (64bit) M-Audio Fast Track Pro, Band in a Box 2025, Cubase 14, Cakewalk and far too many VST plugins that I probably don't need or will ever use
On the Fireface Settings screen, all entries say ‘No Lock’. That doesn’t look right, although I have not worked with a Fireface interface. When I do not have a lock on Presonus or Focusrite units, I get no sound.
If you select SPDIF rather than Internal, do you get a lock?
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Slate VSX, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Few points: 1. Right now I think best is to keep config exactly as it was in 2020, and at least let Simon have a look at it first. 2. If it has something to do with the sound card, why the same config works with 2020 (and other music softwares) and not with 2021. 3. Some time 2021 DO work. and the way I see it, If it was some thing to do with the sound card, it shouldn't work at all.
I concur you are using a very sensible troubleshooting method.
Just pointing out why it appears you would have no sound. What BIAB 2021 could be doing to affect that, I have no clue. But I think it warrants examining.
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Slate VSX, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Goldy. upthread you said this quote; " 1. The issue with the Open processes came back (Every time I open BIAB song - another processes is open. when I close - the process stay open. closing BIAB - all processes stay open."
also you said ; " I hear king of "Knak" or "Bzz"
WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY ANOTHER PROCESSES IS OPEN ?? and what do you mean by "Knak" or "Bzz ?? please go into more detail goldy. because i dont understand your comments.
do you mean win control panel processes ? please detail further.
another question. in bb21 when you get these problems are you in bb daw plug in mode ? OR regular bb mode ?? OR BOTH modes you get problems ??
IN ADDITION GOLDY. you say other music software works fine with your config. please post then with pics your driver settings for both midi and audio drivers that are working well in your non pg software. ie not biab. ie what other software ? cubase ? pro tools ? reaper ? another software ? please post pics of your other softwares settings.
best oldmuso
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 05/22/2103:02 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
1. The sounds "Knak' or "bazz" appear when I open a song, and for less than a second. When I hear it, I know there might be problems with playing this song (not always). 2. About the process which I see in the "Task Manager" - see attached pict. 3. Not sure what do you mean, so I guess Normal mode. 4. I have already posted the midi and audio config which i took from 2020.(you can find it in this thread). there was No problem with it an it was working great. 5. I work mainly with BIAB and Cubase.
1. The sounds "Knak' or "bazz" appear when I open a song, and for less than a second. When I hear it, I know there might be problems with playing this song (not always). 2. About the process which I see in the "Task Manager" - see attached pict. 3. Not sure what do you mean, so I guess Normal mode. 4. I have already posted the midi and audio config which i took from 2020.(you can find it in this thread). there was No problem with it an it was working great. 5. I work mainly with BIAB and Cubase.
Best regards,
Goldy
Re item 2: You've got 5 copies of BBW64.exe running, not one? Doesn't seem quite right to me.
A: How do you start BiaB? B: Do you double-click one or more song files (*.mgu, *.sgu)? C: Any idea why there are 5 copies of BBW64.exe instigated? D: Do you intend to run multiple versions of the program simultaneously?
BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
Yes, try changing you settings to have the item Unchecked, although I'm not sure if it is working again correctly.
BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
Videotrack. g'day mate nice idea re troubleshooting. Goldy. please open up cubase and take pics of your cubase midi and audio settings FROM CUBASE. and post them in this thread. so comparisons can be made with biab settings. i need to look at your cubase settings to compare. try a test of only running ONE INSTANCE of bb2021.
best oldmuso
Last edited by justanoldmuso; 05/22/2104:33 AM.
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
You may be onto something here. If multiple instances of BIAB run, and each one wants to use ASIO, how does ASIO react when it is normally assigned to one input at a time? Wouldn't it block the other instances resulting in no sound 'most of the time'?
BIAB 2025 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 7 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus 192 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Slate VSX, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Matt, my guess is yes, and probably with initial sounds like "Knak' or "bazz"
BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
A: How do you start BiaB? - Both way - thru the software or/and double-click on the song. B: Do you double-click one or more song files (*.mgu, *.sgu)? Yes C: Any idea why there are 5 copies of BBW64.exe instigated? - no. BIAB is closed. D: Do you intend to run multiple versions of the program simultaneously? If you mean 64 and 32 - no.
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