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#657859 05/30/21 02:46 AM
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Is there a true Bo Diddley Beat in BIAB? I've used the song search and can't find one.
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Dave,

Do you have a specific Bo Diddley song in mind? When I searched in the BiaB StylePicker I received a lot of hits on Bo Diddley songs.

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Hello Jim, I've sampled through almost all of those tunes and none of them use the drum pattern that Bo Diddley used on "Hey Bo Diddley". They're so wide to the mark, that typing Bo Diddley into the song search shouldn't bring up any of them. the beat is basically a 3 / 2 clave with a New Orleans second line feel. the New Orleans beats come closest, but still just not the real thing.
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Dave,

One of the many things that made Bo Diddley unique was his sense of timing. You may not be able to find an exact duplicate of the beat used in "Hey Bo Diddley" because the beat is unique to the song.

You may want to consider running listening tests of MIDI styles with MIDI drums. Then you can use the piano roll window to edit the drums to match what you want.


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RB has a drum grid editor which may allow you to create the beat you want with midi drums and then export to BIAB. or work mainly in BIAB, open the file to finish in RB and then replace the drums with the beat you created in the drum grid editor.

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The Bo Diddley Beat is worldfamous; everybody knows it (though not necessarily under this name) - here's a drummer showing it in detail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH2N2zgf4MQ

I'm very surprised that it's NOT implemented in B.i.a.b. with all its emphasis on American stuff and patterns... I was so sure it was until I found this thread here - and am somewhat disappointed now since I need not just the beat but the whole pattern for a new song of mine right now and was sure I could manage to put up the playback with my B.i.a.b. .... frown

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Originally Posted By: ThorstenV
The Bo Diddley Beat is worldfamous; everybody knows it (though not necessarily under this name) - here's a drummer showing it in detail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH2N2zgf4MQ

I'm very surprised that it's NOT implemented in B.i.a.b. with all its emphasis on American stuff and patterns... I was so sure it was until I found this thread here - and am somewhat disappointed now since I need not just the beat but the whole pattern for a new song of mine right now and was sure I could manage to put up the playback with my B.i.a.b. .... frown


Norton music has exactly the BiaB Bo Diddley style that you are looking for:

http://www.nortonmusic.com/style6.html


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Hi,
there is a basic Bo Diddley rhythm in midi style GEORGEM2:

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M1 Standard Drum Kit
M36: Fretless Elec. Bass
M91: Pad-Poly Synth
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Memo: Loose swing 16th Rock feel w/ 5 instr: frt. bass, drums, ac. Guitar (w/ 'high-strung' tuning), poly synth. Oohs at 'b'. Ac. Guitar - palm-damped 'Bo-Diddley' strum. T= 90
Examples: Faith, Bye Bye Love

but yes, like MarioD says, take a listen to the Norton stuff too, it is very good; I have every Pop disk of him


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Ok, but I don't want to spend $34 for one midi file I need...

But thanks for the suggestion!

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Thanks, found it! Yeah, it's very basic... Maybe I can use some of it.

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Over the years I've also lamented the lack of a good Bo Diddley Real Drum track. I recently stumbled upon ModernFunk16thsSput that gets pretty close to my ears.

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Hey, thanks; I'll try that!

Do you know if there's a thread (or any other option) where particular style wishes are being collected?

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Originally Posted By: ThorstenV
Hey, thanks; I'll try that!

Do you know if there's a thread (or any other option) where particular style wishes are being collected?


Its here:

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=6&page=1


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Does anyone know if PGM has added a Bo Diddley beat (RT) since this thread was started?

(a Bo Diddley beat is a second line/New Orleans Rhythm based on the clave you for example can hear in the song "Faith" by George Michael)

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