Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
#657859 05/30/21 01:46 AM
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28
D
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
D
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28
Is there a true Bo Diddley Beat in BIAB? I've used the song search and can't find one.
Thanks
Davetune
BIAB Audiophile 2021 with all the extra Styles

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,908
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,908
Dave,

Do you have a specific Bo Diddley song in mind? When I searched in the BiaB StylePicker I received a lot of hits on Bo Diddley songs.

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
Clipboard01.jpg (238.02 KB, 158 downloads)
StylePicker window with Bo Diddley search term.

Jim Fogle - 2026 BiaB (Build 1213) RB (Build 3) - Ultra+ PAK
DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8
Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28
D
Enthusiast
OP Offline
Enthusiast
D
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28
Hello Jim, I've sampled through almost all of those tunes and none of them use the drum pattern that Bo Diddley used on "Hey Bo Diddley". They're so wide to the mark, that typing Bo Diddley into the song search shouldn't bring up any of them. the beat is basically a 3 / 2 clave with a New Orleans second line feel. the New Orleans beats come closest, but still just not the real thing.
Thanks for your response
Dave

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,908
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,908
Dave,

One of the many things that made Bo Diddley unique was his sense of timing. You may not be able to find an exact duplicate of the beat used in "Hey Bo Diddley" because the beat is unique to the song.

You may want to consider running listening tests of MIDI styles with MIDI drums. Then you can use the piano roll window to edit the drums to match what you want.


Jim Fogle - 2026 BiaB (Build 1213) RB (Build 3) - Ultra+ PAK
DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8
Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,131
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,131
RB has a drum grid editor which may allow you to create the beat you want with midi drums and then export to BIAB. or work mainly in BIAB, open the file to finish in RB and then replace the drums with the beat you created in the drum grid editor.

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 58
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 58
The Bo Diddley Beat is worldfamous; everybody knows it (though not necessarily under this name) - here's a drummer showing it in detail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH2N2zgf4MQ

I'm very surprised that it's NOT implemented in B.i.a.b. with all its emphasis on American stuff and patterns... I was so sure it was until I found this thread here - and am somewhat disappointed now since I need not just the beat but the whole pattern for a new song of mine right now and was sure I could manage to put up the playback with my B.i.a.b. .... frown

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,954
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,954
Originally Posted By: ThorstenV
The Bo Diddley Beat is worldfamous; everybody knows it (though not necessarily under this name) - here's a drummer showing it in detail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH2N2zgf4MQ

I'm very surprised that it's NOT implemented in B.i.a.b. with all its emphasis on American stuff and patterns... I was so sure it was until I found this thread here - and am somewhat disappointed now since I need not just the beat but the whole pattern for a new song of mine right now and was sure I could manage to put up the playback with my B.i.a.b. .... frown


Norton music has exactly the BiaB Bo Diddley style that you are looking for:

http://www.nortonmusic.com/style6.html


It takes courage for a man to admit his wife was wrong.

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 117
B
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
B
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 117
Hi,
there is a basic Bo Diddley rhythm in midi style GEORGEM2:

GeorgeM2.STY. GeorgeM2 - 80s, sw.16 Rock
All MIDI. Quintet. Tempo=90 (65-120)
M1 Standard Drum Kit
M36: Fretless Elec. Bass
M91: Pad-Poly Synth
M26: Acoustic Guitar
M54: Voice Oohs
Memo: Loose swing 16th Rock feel w/ 5 instr: frt. bass, drums, ac. Guitar (w/ 'high-strung' tuning), poly synth. Oohs at 'b'. Ac. Guitar - palm-damped 'Bo-Diddley' strum. T= 90
Examples: Faith, Bye Bye Love

but yes, like MarioD says, take a listen to the Norton stuff too, it is very good; I have every Pop disk of him


Bernard Rasson

BIAB Audiophile 2021, BIAB Megapak 2015 (for midi-only projects), Cakewalk, Roland XV-5080, Roland Fantom XR, Aria AC60 Nylon Strings Guitar, Almansa Spanish Guitar, Fender Stratocaster Japan, two laptops
Je parle français
MarioD #664058 07/13/21 09:47 AM
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 58
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 58
Ok, but I don't want to spend $34 for one midi file I need...

But thanks for the suggestion!

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 58
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 58
Thanks, found it! Yeah, it's very basic... Maybe I can use some of it.

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 330
Journeyman
Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 330
Over the years I've also lamented the lack of a good Bo Diddley Real Drum track. I recently stumbled upon ModernFunk16thsSput that gets pretty close to my ears.

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 58
Enthusiast
Offline
Enthusiast
Joined: Dec 2020
Posts: 58
Hey, thanks; I'll try that!

Do you know if there's a thread (or any other option) where particular style wishes are being collected?

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,954
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 23,954
Originally Posted By: ThorstenV
Hey, thanks; I'll try that!

Do you know if there's a thread (or any other option) where particular style wishes are being collected?


Its here:

https://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=6&page=1


It takes courage for a man to admit his wife was wrong.

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 106
M
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
M
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 106
Does anyone know if PGM has added a Bo Diddley beat (RT) since this thread was started?

(a Bo Diddley beat is a second line/New Orleans Rhythm based on the clave you for example can hear in the song "Faith" by George Michael)

:-) ma


BIAB since 2010

Catalina (10.15.7) iMac (27", late 2013), 32 GB.

BIAB 2022, installed on internal HD; Logic proX; EZdrummer; Spark; Synfire; Suggester .

Musicians Institute (GIT) 1991;
Conservatory of Southern Denmark 2000.
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!

We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!

Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.

Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!

Special offers until December 31st, 2025!

All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Windows Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!

Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!

Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!

Special offers until December 31st, 2025!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Introducing XPro Styles PAK 10 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!

We've just released XPro Styles PAK 10 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 28 RealTracks and RealDrums!

Few things are certain in life: death, taxes, and a brand spankin’ new XPro Styles PAK! In this, the 10th edition of our XPro Styles PAK series, we’ve got 100 styles coming your way! We have the classic 25 styles each from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, and rounding out this volume's wildcard slot is 25 styles in the Praise & Worship genre! A wide spanning genre, you can find everything from rock, folk, country, and more underneath its umbrella. The included 28 RealTracks and RealDrums can be used with any Band-in-a-Box® 2026 (and higher) package.

Here’s just a small sampling of what you can look forward to in XPro Styles PAK 10: Soft indie folk worship songs, bumpin’ country boogies, gospel praise breaks, hard rockin’ pop, funky disco grooves, smooth Latin jazz pop, bossa nova fusion, western swing, alternative hip-hop, cool country funk, and much more!

Special offers until December 31st, 2025!

All the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 10 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.

Video: XPro Styles PAK 10 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

Introducing Xtra Styles PAK 21 – Now Available for Mac Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher!

Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!

We're excited to bring you our latest Xtra Styles PAK installment—the all new Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher)!

Rejoice, one and all, for Xtra Styles PAK 21 for Band-in-a-Box® is here! We’re serving up 200 brand spankin’ new styles to delight your musical taste buds! The first three courses are the classics you’ve come to know and love, including offerings from the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres, but, not to be outdone, this year’s fourth course is bro country! A wide ranging genre, you can find everything from hip-hop, uptempo outlaw country, hard hitting rock, funk, and even electronica, all with that familiar bro country flair. The dinner bell has been rung, pickup up Xtra Styles PAK 21 today!

In this PAK you’ll discover: Energetic folk rock, raucous train beats, fast country boogies, acid jazz grooves, laid-back funky jams, a bevy of breezy jazz waltzes, calm electro funk, indie synth pop, industrial synth metal, and more bro country than could possibly fit in the back of a pickup truck!

Special offers until December 31st, 2025!

All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 21 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 21 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!

Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 21.

Video: Xtra Styles PAK 21 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 21 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows is Here!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows is here and it is packed with major new features! There’s a new modern look, a GUI redesign to all areas of the program including toolbars, windows, workflow and more. There’s a Multi-view layout for organizing multiple windows. A standout addition is the powerful AI-Notes feature, which uses AI neural-net technology to transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI—entire mixes or individual instruments—making it easy to study, view, and play parts from any song. And that’s just the beginning—there are over 60 new features in this exciting release.

Along with version 2026, we've released an incredible lineup of new content! There's 202 new RealTracks, brand-new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two new RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

Special Offers
Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows and save up to 50% on most upgrade packages during our special offer—available until December 31, 2025. Visit our Band-in-a-Box® packages page to explore all available upgrade options.

2026 Free Bonus PAK & 49-PAK Add-ons
Our Free Bonus PAK and 49-PAK are loaded with amazing add-ons! The Free Bonus PAK is included with most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows packages, but you can unlock even more—including 20 unreleased RealTracks—by upgrading to the 2026 49-PAK for just $49. Browse the full contents of each package and listen to demos here.

XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!

XPro & Xtra Styles PAKs Special Extended Until August 31st!

The XPro Styles PAKs and Xtra Styles PAKs special offers are now available until August 31st at 11:59pm PDT!

Ready to take your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 experience to the next level? Now’s the perfect time! Expand your style library with XPro and Xtra Styles PAKs—packed with a wide variety of genres to inspire your next musical creation.

What are XPro Styles and Xtra Styles PAKs?

XPro Styles PAKs are styles that work with any version (Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition) of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). XPro Styles PAKS 1-9 includes 900 styles!

Xtra Styles PAKs are styles that work with the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box® 2025 (or higher). With over 3,500 styles (and 35 MIDI styles) included in Xtra Styles PAKs 1-20, the possibilities are endless!

Get the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.

Note: XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.

Get Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 19 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Listen to demos and order now! For Windows or for Mac.

Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 19 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.

Don’t miss this chance to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box setup—at a great price!

Mac 2025 Special Upgrade Offers Extended Until August 15th!

It's not too late to upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® and save! We've extended our special until August 15, 2025!

We've added many major new features to Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, including advanced AI tools like the amazing BB Stem Splitter and AI Lyrics Generator, as well as VST3 plugin support, and Equalize Temp. Plus, there’s a new one-stop MIDI Patches Picker with over 1,100 MIDI patches to choose from, all neatly categorized by GM numbers. The MultiPicker Library is enhanced with tabs for the SongPicker, MIDI Patch Picker, Chord Builder, AI Lyrics Generator, and Song Titles Browser, and the tabs are organized into logical groups. The Audiophile Edition is enhanced with FLAC files , which are 60% smaller than AIFF files while maintaining identical audio quality, and now ships on a fast 1TB SSD, and much more!

Check out all the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® here:

Purchase your Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac during our special to save up to 50% off your upgrade purchase and receive a FREE BONUS PAK of amazing new Add-ons. These include the 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK, Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana, Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes, MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano, Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7, Playable RealTracks Set 4, RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark, and more!

Upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and add 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and 20 RealStyles, FLAC Files for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks, Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster, MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster, Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8, and RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe.
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs!

Forum Statistics
Forums57
Topics85,219
Posts789,739
Members39,840
Most Online25,754
Jan 24th, 2025
Newest Members
Michael Flitta, Bucasa costa, pharr99, Kim L, Rogier
39,840 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
jpettit 292
DrDan 208
MarioD 201
Noel96 162
DC Ron 134
Rob Helms 129
Today's Birthdays
There are no members with birthdays on this day.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5