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I'm trying to find a suitable style for Texas/Western Swing Guitar.
Four beats to the bar backing a la Joey McKenzie.
https://youtu.be/sKAW559kRnA
https://youtu.be/Me-PUuXoUSA

Secondly, I'm trying to find a simple backing guitar style for Ragtime tunes
such as Beaumont Rag, Black & White, Cottonpatch etc etc.

Someone suggested Westrag.sty, but I can't find that in my StylePicker list.

I have BIAB 2021 UltraPAK.

Your advice would be appreciated.

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Check for _WESTRAG (need to include the leading underscore)
It's from 2017/11 RT299

_3PENCE and _MONOCLE are also definitely worth exploring.

Also perhaps look for JOPLIN and JOPLINORK (both MIDI)


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Did a search under _WS for Western Swing and came up with these.

_WSBAND1 Western Swing Band
_WSFIDDL Western Swing w/ Fiddle
_WSFSTFL Classic Country Swing w/ Jazz
_WSMEDFL Mid Tempo Western Swing
_WSWING+ Mid Tempo Western Swing w/ Multi Solos
_WSWING2 Western Swing Mandolin Solo
_WSWING3 Western Swing Resonator Guitar Solo
_WSWING4 Western Swing Fiddle Solo
_WSWING5 Western Swing Piano Solo
_WSWING6 Western Swing Brent Electric Guitar Solo
_WSWING7 Western Swing Pedal Steel Solo
_WSWINGF Fast Western Swing w/ Electric Guitar
_WSWINGM Mid Tempo Western Swing w/ Electric Guitar
_WSWINGT Western Swing Soloist Trading 8ths
_WSWNGBM Western Swing Brent Electric Guitar Solo
_WSWNGF2 Fast Western Swing Band
_WSWNGM2 Medium Western Swing Band
_WSWNGMF Western Swing Medium
_WSWNGPS Western Swing Pedal Steel Solo
_WSWNPSF Fast Western Swing w/ Pedal Steel
_WSWNPSM Medium Western Swing w/ Pedal Steel

For many of my ragtime songs I use the following:

_LIVINEZ.STY - Living Easy Stride Jazz Ballad
_SWFOLKJ.STY - FolkSwing w. MandolinSolo
_T_FISHN.STY - Country Nylon Fishin'

Also look at this style which is one of my favorites.

It has a good Stride feel to it.

_CORDIAL.STY - Cordial Bouncy EZ Jazz


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Thank you gentlemen.
Very informative and helpful.
I'll check out these styles.
Cheers.

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Gentlemen, after a bit of study and investigation on the Styles I have installed(BIAB 2021 UltraPAK), the following suggestions are not there:
_WESTRAG
_3PENCE
_MONOCLE
_LIVINEZ
_CORDIAL

Where do I get or access these..?
Thank you.

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Originally Posted By: harryt8
Gentlemen, after a bit of study and investigation on the Styles I have installed(BIAB 2021 UltraPAK), the following suggestions are not there:
_WESTRAG
_3PENCE
_MONOCLE
_LIVINEZ
_CORDIAL

Where do I get or access these..?
Thank you.


_WESTRAG is from 2017/11 Set# RT299
_3PENCE is from 2019/05 Set# XTRA PAK 7
_MONOCLE is from 2019/05 Set# XTRA PAK 7
_LIVINEZ is from 2016/07 Set# XTRA PAK 1
_CORDIAL is from 2016/07 Set# XTRA PAK 1


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Thank you Mr Video Track for this further information.
Where do I find _WESTRAG 2017/11 Set# RT299
Is this listed somewhere..?
I'm assuming RT stands for Real Tracks..?
Await your advice.
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Originally Posted By: harryt8
Thank you Mr Video Track for this further information.
Where do I find _WESTRAG 2017/11 Set# RT299
Is this listed somewhere..?
I'm assuming RT stands for Real Tracks..?
Await your advice.
Cheers.

I think (hope?) that you will find RT 299 on this page

The Band Link is Here


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Aren't you confusing the style _WESTRAG.STY with the Real Tracks contained in the style?

Here is what I see when I look at the DEMO song memo:

Obviously the style won't play correctly if you do not have all the RT's needed to pay it.

I would think the question is what RT package does need to be able to utilize those RT's contained in the style _WESTRAG.STY

As I see it here are the RT packages that contains those RT's he needs to play the style:

Bass - RT Package 26
Fiddle - RT Set 136
Guitar - RT Set 299
Mandolin - RT Set 36

Set 299 is for 2962:Guitar, Acoustic, Rhythm RagtimeBluesColin Sw 190 only.

He needs the 4 RT sets listed above and the RealDrum package. There are 29 of those.

In closing, he mentioned that he does have the Ultra Pak so he should have everything.

I would think all he needs to do is to load the style and all the RT's will follow.



****** Song Summary *************
Title: _WESTRAG Demo - Western Country Rag Swing
File:_WESTRAG Demo - Western Country Rag Swing.SGU
Key=D , Tempo 190, Length (m:s)=2:06
No intro. 32 bar chorus, from bar 1 to bar 32. Repeat x3 choruses
No Melody
No Soloist track.
Song is saved with Volume, Pan, Reverb, Chorus, Bank0,
Style is _WESTRAG.STY (Western Country Rag Swing)

RealTracks in song: ~541:Bass, Electric, Pop Sw 190
RealTracks in song: ~1544:Fiddle, Background WesternSwing Sw 190
RealTracks in song: 2962:Guitar, Acoustic, Rhythm RagtimeBluesColin Sw 190
RealTracks in song: ~611:Mandolin, Rhythm Fast Chop Sw 190
RealDrums [in Song:CountrySwing: a: Sidestick, HiHat b: Snare, HiHat


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Thank you once again gentlemen.
I've probably found a good style for Texas/Western back up.
Real Tracks Set 136. The fiddle track is particularly good.
For Ragtime Backing against my fiddle(Beaumont, CottonPatch, Black & White, Pig Ankle etc),
I'm still not quite sure yet if _WESTRAG is the one.
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I just listened to _WSFIDDL.STY and I really like it. It would be great for Beaumont Rag and Pan Handle Rag.


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Thank you.
I just found it too, scrolling through the pages.
I think it would be very suitable.
Your advice is much appreciated.

Do you know if there is a Style Search box on BIAB.?
I am trying to find _WSSTFL.sty. Classic Country Swing w/Jazz

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Originally Posted By: harryt8
Thank you.
I just found it too, scrolling through the pages.
I think it would be very suitable.
Your advice is much appreciated.

Do you know if there is a Style Search box on BIAB.?
I am trying to find _WSSTFL.sty. Classic Country Swing w/Jazz

Cheers.

There is no _WSSTFL available, however, try this:
Open Style Picker
Press Clear
Enter the text: _WSF in the filter string (note the exact characters in the word shown at left)
If you have the Style installed you should see this result:

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Just as a side note, if there's ever gaps in styles where you want something particular but can't find exactly what you're looking for in our existing library of styles, our developers are always open for style type suggestions! You can e-mail those requests with youtube links as examples of what sorts of styles you'd like to see genre/timesig/feel/etc wise and submit them to sales@pgmusic.com and we can pass those along to the developers no problem! This helps them know what people are specifically looking for so that we can create original styles with these aspects in mind that meet the desires of the user base.


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Thank you once again.
Cheers.

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