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#674700 09/24/21 09:45 AM
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I have a song I created in the key of C and want to change it to the key of D. I have done this a hundred times on other songs and have had no problem. Now, when I change the key to D, the header reads D but the song remains in C. I saw a vague reference to this problem in the list of fixes for build 842, so I downloaded 842 and ran it. The problem persists. At this point, I've gotta believe it's somewhere in my settings. Can any of you veterans shed some light on this?


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Should be easy.... are you pushing the right (meaning left) button? I give it a quick try and the chord chart changed correctly.


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There are several ways to transpose in BIAB. Dan showed a choice of two, above. Others are in menus. Tell us which one you used.


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It sounds like you may have used the right hand column that MusicStudent showcased in their screenshot, specifically the one that says "Just Set Key Signature (No Transpose)" based on what you're mentioning. As Matt Finley said, it will be easier for us to be of assistance if you're able to provide us with the exact steps you took, including menu items clicked on and buttons pressed, so that we can follow your process. This will help us determine if you were in the right area of the program for what you were trying to do and having issues, or if you used an option that wasn't the best fit that you wanted.

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I used the left column as shown in Music Student's post above. It's the same one I always use; that's why I can't understand what's going on. As a side note, I have noticed that the problem is global, meaning I can't change key signature on any of my other songs either.


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Return to Factory settings is the next step per protocol.


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I used the left column as shown in Music Student's post above. It's the same one I always use; that's why I can't understand what's going on. As a side note, I have noticed that the problem is global, meaning I can't change key signature on any of my other songs either.


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Question: Might I be able to rectify this problem by returning to factory settings? I have been hesitant to try this until I find out what's going to change. I don't really have any custom settings that I know of; I pretty much use the program as it comes, but I need to know if I'm going to ruin any of my songs by doing this. Any help would be greatly appreciated, as I've obviously screwed something up.


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This tread seems to be a bit out of order?? Yes, RTFS is the prescribed action. It should not be harmful in any way.


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Originally Posted By: John F
I used the left column as shown in Music Student's post above. It's the same one I always use; that's why I can't understand what's going on. As a side note, I have noticed that the problem is global, meaning I can't change key signature on any of my other songs either.


If all of the tracks are frozen they will not change key signatures.


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Originally Posted By: MarioD
If all of the tracks are frozen they will not change key signatures.


Didn't think of that one. smile


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OK, I did a Factory Reset. I lost my bar based lyrics but I got them back. Bottom line, still unable to change key. I had set up a sub directory for the show I'm doing and it's only that subdirectory that is affected. The main directory where I keep all my songs now operates as normal. Could be the main directory was operating normally before, but I didn't look at it before saying it's behavior was global.


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Duh! I knew it had to be something stupid. This is the first time I have frozen tracks and should have thought of that. Once again Harv you have saved my proverbial hind end. Thanks to all for your input. Maybe some day I'll be able to help someone else out if I live that long.


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Thanks Mario. I mistakenly credited Harv but he's saved me from myself in the past too.


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