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I have sheet music here that wants:

Dm7-5

and also

C7+5

I am not sure what that actually mean whether they mean #5 or add 5
How do I enter those in Band in a box?


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The first is entered as Dm7b5 where the minus sign means flatted.

Or, since it is a half-diminished seventh chord, you can type the BIAB pre-programmed shortcut Dh

The second chord is entered as C7#5, where the plus sign means sharped five, or augmented.


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Thank you Matt


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I have another one...

The little triangle or delta.

My Abersold book says it means Major so one can have a C(delta)7 is a Cmajor 7.

However, some other tables on the internet say the delta means Maj 7 so that a C(delta) is a Cmaj7


Which would be correct?

The piece I am working on has Eb(delta) amidst other normal looking chords.
And also Eb(delta)6



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Ebmaj7

Eb6


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There is a font in "Band in a Box" that displays major chords with the triangle instead of "maj" and where you can also optionally select some of the most common jazz symbols variants: the BeStPlain ChordFont.

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the BeStPlain ChordFont


And to give credit where credit is due, my understanding it that it is a font developed by Brille here and incorporated into the production distribution of BIAB packages. Kudos to Brille for doing so.


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Absolutely, kudos to Brille for the suggestion and for designing the font.


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Just to confirm:

Does the just a triangle after a chord stand for a Maj7 ?
Or must it have the 7 ?

And does a triangle with a 6 then stand for a Maj6


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The triangle designates Major, but there is little need to put the triangle without adding the 7 since the absence of a triangle (C) assumes it is major. So the C triangle 7 is a short hand for CMaj7.

The C triangle 6 is the same as C6 but remember the C triangle 7 is not the same as a C7 which is a dominate chord.

The term major generally designates a triad of a root - third - fifth, versus the term minor which designates a triad of root - flat third - fifth. But Major or Minor does not tell you what the 6th or 7th is doing.

Are you really confused now?


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Yes, confused.
I still do not know what it means when they write

C triangle

Which I have here in between normal chords such a Eb etc.




As for the triangle 6, another page I found on jazz chords says that it means the maj7 and 6 are combined into one chord.

Basically a C 6 with B included.

Here:
[url=Jazz guitar lessons chord page]https://www.jazzguitarlessons.net/blog/6-maj6-chords[/url]



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BiaB does not distinguish between some major triad X and Xmaj7. That's a long standing issue on the wishlist.

The interpretation of some major chord depends very much on the style chosen.


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I would interpret Ctriangle as CMaj7 especially if this is a jazz leadsheet.

A major seventh with the sixth? That’s probably intended as a Major 13th chord. Yes, BIAB does those.


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This thread is fairly recent, so I'll jump in with a question/comment about the initial post. I'm trying to get a D augmented 5th chord to play in a RealTrack.

When I disable the Natural Arrangement setting for the track, I do get the A# consistently. But when it's enabled, I rarely if ever get it I regened the chart at least 5 times and might have gotten 1 in 1 measure. I'm surprised the Natural Arrangement algorithms consider the augmented 5th an optional note, as it is certainly a distinct harmonic color.

Any suggestions/thoughts?


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Originally Posted By: cwiggins999


Any suggestions/thoughts?


Good question, gave me an opportunity to use my new toy to pound out the scale and chord on the piano and see it displayed on the screen (MIDIculous 4). This is the free version and it gives me exactly what I wanted.

Oh, back on topic. I can only give you the old tired montra: "..RTs are audio and you get what the artist played in the key and scale they were playing and you have little to no control how the chord is voiced". So with that in mind, here is a list of Scales Compatible with D Augmented. Surfice it to say these not the common pop and cowboy chord scales. grin
D# Melodic Minor
G Melodic Minor
B Melodic Minor
C# Phrygian #6
F Phrygian #6
A Phrygian #6
D Lydian Augmented
F# Lydian Augmented
A# Lydian Augmented
C Lydian Dominant
E Lydian Dominant
G# Lydian Dominant
D Fifth Mode
F# Fifth Mode
A# Fifth Mode
C Locrian #2
E Locrian #2
G# Locrian #2
D Altered
F# Altered
A# Altered
C Whole Tone
D Whole Tone
E Whole Tone
F# Whole Tone
G# Whole Tone
A# Whole Tone
D Bebop Major
F# Bebop Major
A# Bebop Major
D# Bebop Melodic Minor
G Bebop Melodic Minor
B Bebop Melodic Minor
D Harmonic Major
F# Harmonic Major
A# Harmonic Major
D# Harmonic Minor
G Harmonic Minor
B Harmonic Minor
D Double Harmonic Major
F# Double Harmonic Major
A# Double Harmonic Major
D# Hungarian Gypsy
G Hungarian Gypsy
B Hungarian Gypsy
D Phrygian Dominant
F# Phrygian Dominant
A# Phrygian Dominant
D# Neapolitan Minor
G Neapolitan Minor
B Neapolitan Minor
C# Neapolitan Major
D# Neapolitan Major
F Neapolitan Major
G Neapolitan Major
A Neapolitan Major
B Neapolitan Major
D Enigmatic
F# Enigmatic
A# Enigmatic
D Eight-tone Spanish
F# Eight-tone Spanish
A# Eight-tone Spanish
C# Oriental
F Oriental
A Oriental
C Prometheus
E Prometheus
G# Prometheus
C# Symmetrical
F Symmetrical
A Symmetrical
C Major Locrian
D Major Locrian
E Major Locrian
F# Major Locrian
G# Major Locrian
A# Major Locrian
D Augmented
D# Augmented
F# Augmented
G Augmented
A# Augmented
B Augmented
C Lydian Minor
D Lydian Minor
E Lydian Minor
F# Lydian Minor
G# Lydian Minor
A# Lydian Minor

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Dan, what??? Enigmatic? Hungarian gypsy? Sorry, I didn’t learn those and a dozen more. But it doesn’t look like you’re kidding. Prometheus? What on earth …

Chuck, my thoughts are, if it’s important that you hear the nuances of the chords you wrote, disable Natural Arrangement. I did.


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Dan, what??? Enigmatic? Hungarian gypsy? Sorry, I didn’t learn those and a dozen more. But it doesn’t look like you’re kidding. Prometheus? What on earth …


I have been listening to Rick Beato a lot recently. grin

And regarding the Prometeus Scale: 1, 2, 3, ♭5, 6, ♭7 or W, W, W, 1½, H, W. well you can blame that on Google! grin


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I also find the Cb demolished and demented minor scales work well with the augmented chord :-)


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I am both demolished and demented after reading that list. Most certainly not augmented.


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Makes me want to drink a perfect fifth!


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