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thanks.
re point 2 the plus pak.
according to the details plus pak is for 2021 ultrapak
users. i'm on 2020 ultrapak. will it still work ?
it seems silly to buy the 2022 ultrapak and rebuy a ton of stuff i already have in 2020.
merry xmas.
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It can be painful and costly to miss the annual updates and then try to catch up. Been there and done that.
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The 2022 PlusPAK works because it gives you the package content introduced in 2022.
However, you will not have content introduced in 2021 as well as the bonus content from 2021 and 2022.
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I liked this excellent, informative tutorial, and really appreciate that there was very little distracting, superflorus background music, as there is in many other BIAB videos... great work PGM.
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I liked this excellent, informative tutorial, and really appreciate that there was very little distracting, superflorus background music, as there is in many other BIAB videos... great work PGM. Absolutely well put together and explained. This should especially allow users to become familiar with the new features with minimal effort. Outstanding.
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After watching the video, I have to say this is the most excited I've been about a BiaB release in years, maybe ever. Ordinarily, I focus on the Real Tracks and judge the new release based heavily on my impressions of them. This has been particularly true in the years that the new features seem to be incremental improvements or tweaks to things I never use. This release blows me away and offers some features many of us have wanted for years. PG seems to have really knocked this one out of the park!
For me, Micro Chords are a game changer. My pet peeve with BiaB has always been that I was chained at the ankle to quarter note changes. No more. This also effectively eliminates the need for the push in entering chords. You can now change the chord wherever you want it to change, rather than being tied to what the program generates. Ditto with the motif feature. These two used in combination expands a world of creative possibilities and takes an already powerful program to the next level.
I never even considered volume automation within the program itself. Mainly because, BiaB was so far behind in some basic features over the years, that it seemed the least of my worries. I always created my own using my DAW's automation lanes anyway, but this is an excellent addition and gives the user a high level of control. Hopefully, new releases will see other parameters become editable as well.
Playable RealTracks is a welcome addition too. So often, I generate a section for a solo or something and it's "almost" right. I've sometimes used my DAW's editing tools to change a note here or there, and even Melodyne. But to go into the piano roll and replace the notes generated from BiaB? That's very useful and should yield a more organic sound, that theoretically wouldn't produce artifacts.
I'm looking forward to the Drum Stems discussion in part 2.
So one question I have is about backwards compatibility. Do these features work on older Real Tracks sets as well, or only for those included with 2022 and beyond? Can any track become a Playable Real Track for example? Even those from old sets? Will Micro Chords entry work on all sets? Can I automate volume on RT's from say 2012 or 2015? Or, as I said, it only available for certain sets? Ditto for the stems feature. Will it be available for all past drums sets, or just new ones?
I haven't downloaded it yet. I probably will tomorrow, but I'll close with an additional question I didn't see covered in the video. Does Micro Chords entry support all the basic chord entry options, such as shots and holds, etc? I noticed you can separate the notes with commas, as in regular chord entry but it would be awesome if you could accent a note with a shot or whatever.
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So one question I have is about backwards compatibility.
>Do these features work on older Real Tracks sets as well, or only for those included with 2022 and beyond?
Yes, The micro chords, multi riff, motifs, work on all RealTracks, including the old ones.
>Can any track become a Playable Real Track for example? Even those from old sets?
We are in the process of adding more of them, with the goal of having all of them be playable rt. We have all the material, it’s just a question of time as we add them. There are 400 now, and many of those work on multiple RealTracks since the same instrument was used.
>Will Micro Chords entry work on all sets?
Yes, as above.
Can I automate volume on RT's from say 2012 or 2015?
Yes.
>Or, as I said, it only available for certain sets?
>Ditto for the stems feature. Will it be available for all past drums sets, or just new ones?
_ we have the source material for the RealDrums, and it takes time to make the stems. But yes, we plan on making all the RealDrums available as stems. Right now we have 40 of them as stems.
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Thanks for that clarification, Peter. That will help us to assist what are expected to be popular questions from many users.
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Question: is it possible to add your own notes in RealTrack using a MIDI keyboard or it can only be done using mouse in step sequencer fashion?
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Question:
How many official styles are there now? I mean those displayed on the stylepicker page
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Finally watched it completely, even parts that of less interest.
Tobin, well done!
What Tobin mentioned about micro chord showing up at 42:09 "would like to see those myself..."
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So one question I have is about backwards compatibility.
>Do these features work on older Real Tracks sets as well, or only for those included with 2022 and beyond?
Yes, The micro chords, multi riff, motifs, work on all RealTracks, including the old ones.
>Can any track become a Playable Real Track for example? Even those from old sets?
We are in the process of adding more of them, with the goal of having all of them be playable rt. We have all the material, it’s just a question of time as we add them. There are 400 now, and many of those work on multiple RealTracks since the same instrument was used.
>Will Micro Chords entry work on all sets?
Yes, as above.
Can I automate volume on RT's from say 2012 or 2015?
Yes.
>Or, as I said, it only available for certain sets?
>Ditto for the stems feature. Will it be available for all past drums sets, or just new ones?
_ we have the source material for the RealDrums, and it takes time to make the stems. But yes, we plan on making all the RealDrums available as stems. Right now we have 40 of them as stems. Thank you for the prompt reply. It is very much appreciated. It's awesome that these features are either already backward compatible or that there are plans to make all the previous sets work with the new features. I downloaded my copy today. I also have to give a big thumbs up to the new download manager as well. Not the sexiest feature unless you've done it all manually in past years. Overall, the best release to come along since the introduction of RealTracks themselves.
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Best Video I have seen so far I think. More informative and relatively digestable.
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Great video!
Actually, the new track settings window is, with multiriffs, my favourite new feature from 2022. It allows you to concentrate on making music, rather than searching through menus and menus. Giant steps in the right direction!
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Great job on the drum stems!
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Watching the pt2 video, I've realised that, because some styles will use the utility tracks, loading a new style could/would set a utility track up with a new instrument/musician, presumably ousting whatever was there before, which could be a track of my own. (Sorry, I'm on a Linux at the moment without my Wine install so I have no place to try this).
The obvious question is, Is there a way to stop that happening or warn about it, and/or is there a best practices way to avoid it (using the higher number tracks for my own stuff is an obvious candidate)?
Heh ... there's a Dilbert I love:
If "Best Practices" is what everyone is doing, then it's the same as mediocre.
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Gordon.
Freezing a track prevents the styles from using it.
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New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
Jazz, Blues & World (Sets 449–455):
These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
Rock & Pop (Sets 456–461):
This collection includes Disco, slap bass ‘70s/‘80s pop, modern and ‘80s metal with Andy Wood, and a unique “Songwriter Potpourri” featuring Chinese folk instruments, piano, banjo, and more. You’ll also find a muted electric guitar style (a RealTracks first!) and “Producer Layered Guitar” styles for slick "produced" sound.
Country, Americana & Praise (Sets 462–467):
We’ve added new RealTracks across bro country, Americana, praise & worship, vintage country, and songwriter piano. Highlights include Brent Mason (electric guitar), Eddie Bayers (drums), Doug Jernigan (pedal steel), John Jarvis (piano), Glen Duncan (banjo, mandolin & fiddle), Mike Harrison (electric bass) and more—offering everything from modern sounds to heartfelt Americana styles
Check out all the 202 New RealTracks (in sets 456-467)
And, if you are looking for more, the 2025 49-PAK (for $49) includes an additional 20 RealTracks with exciting new sounds and genre-spanning styles. Enjoy RealTracks firsts like Chinese instruments (guzheng & dizi), the bandoneon in an authentic Argentine tango trio, and the classic “tic-tac” baritone guitar for vintage country.
You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
Plus, enjoy user-requested styles like Soul Jazz RealDrums, fast Celtic Strathspey guitar, and Chill Hop piano & drums!
The 2025 49-PAK is loaded with other great new add-ons as well. Learn more about the 2025 49-PAK!
Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box 2025 for Mac!
With your version 2025 for Mac Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition or PlusPAK purchase, we'll include a Bonus PAK full of great new Add-ons FREE! Or upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for only $49 to receive even more NEW Add-ons including 20 additional RealTracks!
These PAKs are loaded with additional add-ons to supercharge your Band-in-a-Box®!
This Free Bonus PAK includes:
- The 2025 RealCombos Booster PAK:
-For Pro customers, this includes 33 new RealTracks and 65+ new RealStyles.
-For MegaPAK customers, this includes 29 new RealTracks and 45+ new RealStyles.
-For UltraPAK customers, this includes 20 new RealStyles.
- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
- Playable RealTracks Set 4
- RealDrums Stems Set 7: Jazz with Mike Clark
- SynthMaster Sounds and Styles (with audio demos)
- 128 GM MIDI Patch Audio Demos.
Looking for more great add-ons, then upgrade to the 2025 49-PAK for just $49 and you'll get:
- 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums with 20 RealStyles,
- FLAC Files (lossless audio files) for the 20 Bonus Unreleased RealTracks and RealDrums
- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 45: More SynthMaster
- Artist Performance Set 18: Songs with Vocals 8
- RealDrums Stems Set 8: Pop, Funk & More with Jerry Roe
Learn more about the Bonus PAKs for Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®!
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
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Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
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