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The forum is much slower this time.
I watched. This forum is too laggy to the Internet at three a.m. to three p.m. in the United States. Do you feel it?


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
The forum is much slower this time.
I watched. This forum is too laggy to the Internet at three a.m. to three p.m. in the United States. Do you feel it?

I didn't notice that here. The performance is fairly consistent. Quite acceptable, actually. Maybe the problem issue you notice is not United States (or Canada), but coming from somewhere else?


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Swingbabymix: Yesterday on a post you said you had trouble streaming the audio demos because your internet service was so slow. That could be part of the problem with you seeing slowness on the forum webpage.

To test your internet download speed go to www.speedtest.net and click the GO button in the middle of the page.

Let us know what the following results are.

Ping, Download and Upload

As an example, my service is with AT&T and here are my results

Ping = 47ms (milli-seconds)
Download = 48.50 mbps (megabytes per second)
Upload = 12.10 mbps (megabytes per second)

The test results can change by a little each time you do the test but that is normal.

Mine is not the fastest service by any means but it is fast enough that I don't have any problems loading webpages or downloading files.





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Originally Posted By: jcland
Swingbabymix: Yesterday on a post you said you had trouble streaming the audio demos because your internet service was so slow. That could be part of the problem with you seeing slowness on the forum webpage.

To test your internet download speed go to www.speedtest.net and click the GO button in the middle of the page.

Let us know what the following results are.

Ping, Download and Upload

As an example, my service is with AT&T and here are my results

Ping = 47ms (milli-seconds)
Download = 48.50 mbps (megabytes per second)
Upload = 12.10 mbps (megabytes per second)

The test results can change by a little each time you do the test but that is normal.

Mine is not the fastest service by any means but it is fast enough that I don't have any problems loading webpages or downloading files.







yes. So I was thinking about how to download songs to the computer.
Or can it only be played online at a time?


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To test your internet download speed go to www.speedtest.net and click the GO button in the middle of the page.

Let us know what the following results are.

Ping, Download and Upload


SBM, yes, do let us know the values you received from this test.


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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Originally Posted By: jcland
To test your internet download speed go to www.speedtest.net and click the GO button in the middle of the page.

Let us know what the following results are.

Ping, Download and Upload


SBM, yes, do let us know the values you received from this test.

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10 times the download speed that I get! But, I think, you're much further away.

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10 times the download speed that I get! But, I think, you're much further away.

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It's actually very slow
Once in a while, the day will be fast.
But today is very slow.
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Swingbabymix. That is an incredible test result.

The lower the Ping the better it is and the higher the download and upload results the better it is.

Basically a Ping is how long it takes the other end to answer back to your end. Your Ping test came in at 19ms and mine was 43ms, much slower. Your download is 10 times better then mine. The upload test is always going to be slower then the download test and yours appears to be nothing but normal.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with those results. In fact,I would love to get those results at my end.


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Originally Posted By: jcland
Swingbabymix. That is an incredible test result.

The lower the Ping the better it is and the higher the download and upload results the better it is.

Basically a Ping is how long it takes the other end to answer back to your end. Your Ping test came in at 19ms and mine was 43ms, much slower. Your download is 10 times better then mine. The upload test is always going to be slower then the download test and yours appears to be nothing but normal.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with those results. In fact,I would love to get those results at my end.



Yes, it can be judged by ear, but it is not as convenient as directly at the MIXER station
In addition, there is nothing right in the bar setting now.
If there are multiple styles of display, I think it’s a reasonable requirement to have the name of the musical instrument in the style that MIX plays together.


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
Yes, it can be judged by ear, but it is not as convenient as directly at the MIXER station
In addition, there is nothing right in the bar setting now.
If there are multiple styles of display, I think it’s a reasonable requirement to have the name of the musical instrument in the style that MIX plays together.

SBM: ?? I think you replied to the wrong thread? crazy


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As for PGMusic site being slow;
those speeds are measured at a highly available and beefy server used for the testing. Most likely it is fairly local and close.
This means a different Route than it is to PGMusic.

The couple times I found the site slow I did a TraceRT (trace route) from the command line and both times found it was some issue out on the internet where my traffic was being routed to Quebec Canada instead of Chicago (which is how it normally went at the time and Quebec was literally the wrong direction) and then back out west and somewhere down the route a relay was really slow.

Wasn't PGMusic's fault .. more of just an internet thing. Who knows, maybe they had a relay down somewhere and rerouted traffic best they could, but for me it was a temporary inconvenience.
Other sites were fine, it was my route to PGMusic that was most affected for my use/observation. And mainly due to one given 'hop'.

Just an idea.


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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Originally Posted By: swingbabymix
Yes, it can be judged by ear, but it is not as convenient as directly at the MIXER station
In addition, there is nothing right in the bar setting now.
If there are multiple styles of display, I think it’s a reasonable requirement to have the name of the musical instrument in the style that MIX plays together.

SBM: ?? I think you replied to the wrong thread? crazy



yes
I'm refreshing the page to see the theme
I confused the two themes


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Originally Posted By: rharv
As for PGMusic site being slow;
those speeds are measured at a highly available and beefy server used for the testing. Most likely it is fairly local and close.
This means a different Route than it is to PGMusic.

The couple times I found the site slow I did a TraceRT (trace route) from the command line and both times found it was some issue out on the internet where my traffic was being routed to Quebec Canade instead of Chicago (which is how it normally went at the time and Quebec was literally the wrong direction) and then back out west and somewhere down the route a relay was really slow.

Wasn't PGMusic's fault .. more of just an internet thing. Who knows, maybe they had a relay down somewhere and rerouted traffic best they could, but for me it was a temporary inconvenience.
Other sites were fine, it was my route to PGMusic that was most affected for my use/observation. And mainly due to one given 'hop'.

Just an idea.



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Don’t count on STARLINK yet.

Your Ping is a tiny bit slow but more than acceptable. You are probably paying for 400 Mbs internet service. I have the same speed and have not experienced any difficulty with the PG Music forums. I thought we were told a few years ago that the forum servers were in Quebec.

Rharv is right that Tracert will reveal a bottleneck if it exists.



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My download speed is 4mbps, but it really doesn't make mush difference to forum activity. Downloading updates is another matter.

We aren't on fiber and don't expect to get there anytime soon. Also no cable, so we are stuck with overhead wire.


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