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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Joined: May 2010
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Hello all,
My Biab 2022 (912) also takes a lot time to boot. About 12 secs with a new, fast laptop.
AMD Ryzen 9 4900H 3.30 GHz
16 GB Ram
Fast boot is activated too.
2021 version booted quicker as far as I remember. I saw and added me to the thread with this topic before. But it is marked as resolved. I did not find any information, that help me with this issue. Quick start-up was already set. Any ideas? This is the bootlog.....
D:\Meine\2_Musik\BandInABox\bb\Data\BootupLog.txt = Log-Datei für Startzeiten beim Bootvorgang. Kopieren Sie den Inhalt nach Excel für bessere Darstellung. LogThis: Start of this: Init Start Init1 [24.12.2021 15:50:19] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 5 ], since last LogThis function = 5 LogThis: Start of this: InitCompleted. bbw.dpr started [24.12.2021 15:50:19] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 70 ], since last LogThis function = 65 LogThis: Start of this: possibly showing splash screen... [24.12.2021 15:50:19] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 73 ], since last LogThis function = 3 LogThis: Start of this: TBandWindowFormCreate 5.2 [24.12.2021 15:50:19] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 320 ], since last LogThis function = 247 LogThis: Start of this: TBandWindowFormCreate 5.21 [24.12.2021 15:50:20] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 1,332 ], since last LogThis function = 1,012 LogThis: Start of this: SelectWorkingAudioDriver ASIO [24.12.2021 15:50:20] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 1,847 ], since last LogThis function = 515 LogThis: Start of this: sending postpaint message... [24.12.2021 15:50:21] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 1,952 ], since last LogThis function = 105 LogThis: Start of this: TCSform.RunDialog [24.12.2021 15:50:21] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 1,954 ], since last LogThis function = 2 LogThis: Start of this: translateStylz [24.12.2021 15:50:21] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 2,805 ], since last LogThis function = 851 LogThis: Start of this: Application.Run [24.12.2021 15:50:33] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 14,297 ], since last LogThis function = 11,492 LogThis: Start of this: BEGIN PostPaintMIDIDialog_MIDIConnect_MySetup_SysEx_Cache [24.12.2021 15:50:33] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 14,376 ], since last LogThis function = 79 LogThis: Start of this: Loading default synth TGS [24.12.2021 15:50:33] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 14,379 ], since last LogThis function = 3 LogThis: Start of this: Making plugin lists [24.12.2021 15:50:33] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 14,383 ], since last LogThis function = 4 LogThis: Start of this: Scanning for default IKM VST plugins [24.12.2021 15:50:33] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 14,499 ], since last LogThis function = 116 LogThis: Start of this: Scanning for default Sforzando VST plugins [24.12.2021 15:50:33] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 14,503 ], since last LogThis function = 4 LogThis: Start of this: Scanning for default PG DirectX plugins [24.12.2021 15:50:33] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 14,506 ], since last LogThis function = 3 LogThis: Start of this: Time to scan ALL plugins = 124 [24.12.2021 15:50:33] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 14,510 ], since last LogThis function = 4 LogThis: Start of this: Time to scan AU plugins = 0 [24.12.2021 15:50:33] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 14,513 ], since last LogThis function = 3 LogThis: Start of this: Time to scan DX plugins = 0 [24.12.2021 15:50:33] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 14,516 ], since last LogThis function = 3 LogThis: Start of this: Time to scan known VST plugins = 113 [24.12.2021 15:50:33] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 14,519 ], since last LogThis function = 3 LogThis: Start of this: Time to scan unknown VST plugins = 11 [24.12.2021 15:50:33] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 14,522 ], since last LogThis function = 3 LogThis: Start of this: Recovering plugins from <=2020 lists [24.12.2021 15:50:33] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 14,525 ], since last LogThis function = 3 LogThis: Start of this: CreateThePGReverbForm... [24.12.2021 15:50:33] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 14,623 ], since last LogThis function = 98 LogThis: Start of this: ...CreateThePGReverbForm [24.12.2021 15:50:33] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 14,652 ], since last LogThis function = 29 LogThis: Start of this: ReInitMidiForOut... [24.12.2021 15:50:33] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 14,655 ], since last LogThis function = 3 LogThis: Start of this: ...ReInitMidiForOut [24.12.2021 15:50:33] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 14,715 ], since last LogThis function = 60 LogThis: Start of this: CachePatchesNOW [24.12.2021 15:50:33] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 14,719 ], since last LogThis function = 4 LogThis: Start of this: SetUpPluginsMenus [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,033 ], since last LogThis function = 314 LogThis: Start of this: AskAboutArchiving [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,065 ], since last LogThis function = 32 LogThis: Start of this: DosizeCheck [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,068 ], since last LogThis function = 3 LogThis: Start of this: slowww...PostPaintMIDIDialog_MIDIConnect 11.7 activation slowww [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,074 ], since last LogThis function = 6 LogThis: Start of this: MaxPlugins.MaybeShowWarningMessage [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,081 ], since last LogThis function = 7 LogThis: Start of this: PostPaintMIDIDialog_MIDIConnect VariousShowFlashTip [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,085 ], since last LogThis function = 4 LogThis: Start of this: FretlightBB.MaybeActivate [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,092 ], since last LogThis function = 7 LogThis: Start of this: RepositionMainWindow [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,096 ], since last LogThis function = 4 LogThis: Start of this: wasapi.possiblyStartMainStream [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,155 ], since last LogThis function = 59 LogThis: Start of this: InitRTVideoExists [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,166 ], since last LogThis function = 11 LogThis: Start of this: Checking if main window is visible... [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,170 ], since last LogThis function = 4 LogThis: Start of this: PostPaintMIDIDialog_MIDIConnect 20 DONE that is it! [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,174 ], since last LogThis function = 4 LogThis: Start of this: WriteSongStyleName... [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,177 ], since last LogThis function = 3 LogThis: Start of this: ...WriteSongStyleName [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,193 ], since last LogThis function = 16 LogThis: Start of this: ParamString = [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,196 ], since last LogThis function = 3 LogThis: Start of this: explorerCommand 0 [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,199 ], since last LogThis function = 3 LogThis: Start of this: AskAboutFileAssociations... [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,501 ], since last LogThis function = 302 LogThis: Start of this: ...AskAboutFileAssociations [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,505 ], since last LogThis function = 4 LogThis: Start of this: SetTimer... [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,508 ], since last LogThis function = 3 LogThis: Start of this: ...SetTimer [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,511 ], since last LogThis function = 3 LogThis: Start of this: adjustWindowSizes... [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,515 ], since last LogThis function = 4 LogThis: Start of this: ...adjustWindowSizes [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,528 ], since last LogThis function = 13 LogThis: Start of this: BOOTUP LOG COMPLETE. Asking to display the log... [24.12.2021 15:50:34] [ms since LogStart(boot)= 15,532 ], since last LogThis function = 4
Cheers
Stefan
DAW: Studio One 6.2 Pro Interfaces: StudioLive AR12c, Scarlett 8i6 Windows 11 Professional AMD Ryzen 9 4900H, 16GB, 3,30 GHz
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Band-in-a-Box for Windows
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Hi Stefan,
Just now when I loaded BIAB, it took 18.5 secs.
When I shut it down and restarted it, it took 2.3 secs.
Does your BIAB behave similarly?
Regards, Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2026
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Could that be it: Time to scan ALL plugins = 124?
Perhaps new Scanned plugins? Try to disable from scanning all plugins that you will not use in BIAB.
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Yes, the scan of plugins appears to be the cause of the delay in that log. Are all plugins properly registered? I recall someone else had a problem a few years ago and that was the reason.
BIAB 2026 Win Audiophile. Software: Fender Studio One 8, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Fender Quantom HD8 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
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First start-up was a bit over 8 seconds. Second little less then 4 seconds:
Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2022.914.0, 12/27/2021 9:20:18 AM] Bootup time in milliseconds =3,782 [2022.914.0, 12/27/2021 9:20:18 AM] Time to scan unknown VST plugins = 5 ms [2022.914.0, 12/27/2021 9:20:18 AM] Time to scan known VST plugins = 16 ms [2022.914.0, 12/27/2021 9:20:18 AM] Time to scan AU plugins = 0 ms [2022.914.0, 12/27/2021 9:20:18 AM] Time to scan ALL plugins = 21 ms [2022.914.0, 12/27/2021 9:20:18 AM] Time to Count Plugins in ms =781. Plugins counted=66 [2022.914.0, 12/27/2021 9:20:18 AM] Scanning for plugins... [2022.914.0, 12/27/2021 9:20:17 AM] **** New Session started at : 12/27/2021 9:20:17 AM
Cheers, Mike My Music * Asus ROG Strix G15CF 32 GB DDR4 4TB HDD + 1 TB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 8GB Win 11 AKAI EIE PRO Sound Interface. BIAB/RB 2024 UltraPak Build - Latest
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After I upgraded from 2021 to 2011, the startup time decreased significantly. I would guess that 2021 used to take 15-20 seconds. 2021 takes 4-5 seconds! Nice improvement!
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Biab Audiophile 2026
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My question is 'why does it matter?' What will you do with the 5 seconds you might save?
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