Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,923
DrDan Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,923
I use a nanoKontrol2 with Reaper. While it is great, it is not without its many limitations. So I wanted to suppliment it. I have been looking a long time and not able to find simple sliders to control VSTi libraries at a reasonable price. Until now.

Any one have experience with this little piece of gear?

https://themidimaker.com/


BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.

Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,596
Veteran
Online Content
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 24,596
I found this on Amazon for $66 USD:

https://www.amazon.com/Btuty-Portable-Sl...C104&sr=8-3

If has 9 sliders but also 9 knobs and 9 buttons. IMHO this is a better bang for the buck even though it has more than you requested. YMMV


Back in my day the only time we started panic buying was when the bartender shouted "last call"!

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,923
DrDan Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,923
Mario, that looks a lot like my nanoKontrol2. Can't tell you how much time I have put into comprehending and configuring the nanoKontrol for Reaper. And now that I have spent the time to Master the nano, I find I need more.

The Nano has essentially two modes of operation -
1) Mackie Control (DAW Modes). In the case of Reaper, the control is pretty good (~ 80% effective for contolling typical track features). But this leave little to no control over external VSTi.

2) CC-controlled (VSTi mode). This requires coding of each and every button, knob and slider to an action. This can handle all controls for VSTi parameters, but then is a bit limited in what it can do to control Reaper.

Only one mode can be functional at a time. I currently run with Mode 2. But I want to run in Mode 1. If I buy the sliders I can do that.

Well, I am pretty sure I can. Enough to already have this item on the way. grin


Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
Capture.JPG (35.34 KB, 119 downloads)

BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.

Off-Topic
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 11,019
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 11,019
Dan,

One issue with buying duplicates of any USB device is both devices may use the same device ID. The device ID is what Microsoft Windows uses to keep track of multiple devices communicating with a computer.

At one time a complaint about the nanoKontrol2 was all used the same device ID. Korg stated they may issue firmware and nanoKontrol2 Editor updates so a Device ID can be set by the user. I don't know if that has been accomplished yet.

As an aside, love the updated Avatar. Sharp looking shirt!


Jim Fogle - 2026 BiaB (Build 1224) RB (Build 8) - Ultra+ PAK
DAWs: Cakewalk Sonar - Standalone: Zoom MRS-8
Desktop: i7 Win 11, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD
Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,923
DrDan Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,923
Thanks for the heads up.

Not planning on duplicating the Nano. Just keeping the one I got and fully dedicating all controls to Reaper opereration. Then adding the Sparrow 3x100mm MIDI controller to work with the VSTi libraries. Now if that causes a conflict, I will just chalk it up to the cost of doing business. One of the items will end up in the closet. grin


BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.

Off-Topic
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,913
R
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
R
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,913
Behringer used to make a mostly sliders with motorized ping throw faders. People love it for a compact lighting controller. Lemme see if I can find it

Off-Topic
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,913
R
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
R
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,913
BCF-2000 is the model number

Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 280
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 280
I use this to control Logic. My main use is with the Spitfire Audio libraries as you can set any of the controls to do whatever you want. Its not cheap but is build like a tank, has a good throw on the sliders, which feel very smooth. Unlike the nanokontrol 2 I do not get drop outs.

https://studiologic-music.com/products/mixface/

Out of the box it will detect your DAW and set it up. The manual is not that clear however on how you can use it for other uses. I found this YouTube video which explained how.

https://youtu.be/xPi0ieK8EOw


Last edited by TRYUK; 02/11/22 10:16 PM.
Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,923
DrDan Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,923
Originally Posted By: TRYUK
I use this to control Logic. My main use is with the Spitfire Audio libraries as you can set any of the controls to do whatever you want. Its not cheap but is build like a tank, has a good throw on the sliders, which feel very smooth. Unlike the nanokontrol 2 I do not get drop outs.

https://studiologic-music.com/products/mixface/

Out of the box it will detect your DAW and set it up. The manual is not that clear however on how you can use it for other uses. I found this YouTube video which explained how.

https://youtu.be/xPi0ieK8EOw



Thanks for the info. I have had my eye on the Mixface for some time. I own the SL88 Studio. However, your's is one of the more favoralble reviews I have read. Others have not been so positive. If I had read this a month ago, you might have convinced me. grin

I got the Nano years ago but only recently have gotten use out of it. It is not "plug and play". Drivers, control software and DAW configuration is critical to its operation.

I have now found users reviews on the Sparrow 3x100mm MIDI controller which make be feel better about the order. Time will tell.


BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.

Off-Topic
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,923
DrDan Offline OP
Veteran
OP Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 12,923
Sparrow 3 - Up and running and loving it.

Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
IMG_1516.jpg (98.74 KB, 45 downloads)

BIAB – 2026, Reaper (current), i7-12700F Processor, 32GB DDR4-3200MHz RAM, Motu Audio Express 6x6 - My SoundCloud.

Off-Topic
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,075
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,075
Looking good Dan. Certainly adds some versatility.


BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
Off-Topic
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,531
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 27,531
We need BIAB to support a MIDI control surface so we can use automation in track volume and panning. It’s the next logical step if you want to stay in BIAB longer before going to a DAW.


BIAB 2026 Win Audiophile. Software: Fender Studio One 8, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6, Song Master Pro, Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Presonus Quantom HD8 & Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors.
Off-Topic
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,075
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,075
Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
We need BIAB to support a MIDI control surface so we can use automation in track volume and panning. It’s the next logical step if you want to stay in BIAB longer before going to a DAW.

Yes, this has often been requested and would introduce significant practicality to the program. Hopefully one day(?)


BIAB & RB2026 Win.(Audiophile), Windows 10 Pro & Windows 11, Cakewalk Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Session Keys Grand S & Electric R, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M, Pioneer Active Monitors.
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Holiday Weekend Hours

As we hop into the Easter weekend, here are our holiday hours:

April 3 (Good Friday): 8:00 AM – 4:00 PM PDT
April 4 (Saturday): Closed
April 5 (Easter Sunday): Closed
April 6 (Easter Monday): Open regular hours

Wishing you an egg-cellent weekend!

— Team PG

Update to Build 10 of RealBand® 2026 for Windows®!

If you're already using RealBand 2026 for Windows, download build 10 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.

Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac® users: Build 904 now available!

If you're already using Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Mac®, make sure to grab the latest update! Build 904 is now available for download and includes the newest additions and enhancements from our team.

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® users: Build 1237 is now available!

Already a Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows user? Stay up to date and download the build 1237 to get all the latest additions and enhancements.

PowerTracks Pro 2026 for Windows is Here!

PowerTracks 2026 is here—bringing powerful new enhancements designed to make your production workflow faster, smoother, and more intuitive than ever.

The enhanced Mixer now shows Track Type and Instrument icons for instant track recognition, while a new grid option simplifies editing views. Non-floating windows adopt a modern title bar style, replacing the legacy blue bar.

The Master Volume is now applied at the end of the audio chain for consistent levels and full-signal master effects.

Tablature now includes a “Save bends when saving XML” option for improved compatibility with PG Music tools. Plus, you can instantly match all track heights with a simple Ctrl-release after resizing, and Add2 chords from MGU/SGU files are now fully supported... and more!

Get started today—first-time packages start at just $49.

Already using PowerTracks Pro Audio? Upgrade for as little as $29 and enjoy the latest improvements!

Order now!

Band-in-a-Box 2026 for Windows Special Offers End Tomorrow (January 15th, 2026) at 11:59 PM PST!

Time really is running out! Save up to 50% on Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® upgrades and receive a FREE Bonus PAK—only when you order by 11:59 PM PST on Thursday, January 15, 2026!

We've added many major new features and new content in a redesigned Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®!

Version 2026 introduces a modernized GUI redesign across the program, with updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, and a new Dark Mode option. There’s also a new side toolbar for quicker access to commonly used windows, and the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, making it easier to customize your workspace.

Another exciting new addition is the new AI-Notes feature, which can transcribe polyphonic audio into MIDI. You can view the results in notation or play them back as MIDI, and choose whether to process an entire track or focus on specific parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.

There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

Upgrade your Band-in-a-Box for Windows to save up to 50% on most Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade packages!

Plus, when you order your Band-in-a-Box® 2026 upgrade during our special, you'll receive a Free Bonus PAK of exciting new add-ons.

If you need any help deciding which package is the best option for you, just let us know. We are here to help!

Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® Special Offers Extended Until January 15, 2026!

Good news! You still have time to upgrade to the latest version of Band-in-a-Box® for Windows® and save. Our Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® special now runs through January 15, 2025!

We've packed Band-in-a-Box® 2026 with major new features, enhancements, and an incredible lineup of new content! The program now sports a sleek, modern GUI redesign across the entire interface, including updated toolbars, refreshed windows, smoother workflows, a new dark mode option, and more. The brand-new side toolbar provides quicker access to key windows, while the new Multi-View feature lets you arrange multiple windows as layered panels without overlap, creating a flexible, clutter-free workspace. We have an amazing new “AI-Notes” feature. This transcribes polyphonic audio into MIDI so you can view it in notation or play it back as MIDI. You can process an entire track (all pitched instruments and drums) or focus on individual parts like drums, bass, guitars/piano, or vocals. There's an amazing collection of new content too, including 202 RealTracks, new RealStyles, MIDI SuperTracks, Instrumental Studies, “Songs with Vocals” Artist Performance Sets, Playable RealTracks Set 5, two RealDrums Stems sets, XPro Styles PAK 10, Xtra Styles PAK 21, and much more!

There are over 100 new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows®.

When you order purchase Band-in-a-Box® 2026 before 11:59 PM PST on January 15th, you'll also receive a Free Bonus PAK packed with exciting new add-ons.

Upgrade to Band-in-a-Box® 2026 for Windows® today! Check out the Band-in-a-Box® packages page for all the purchase options available.

Forum Statistics
Forums57
Topics86,122
Posts800,483
Members40,037
Most Online44,367
Mar 4th, 2026
Newest Members
tama30, Dewbert, shelipicia, Shakey2, Matt1575
40,037 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 141
rsdean 99
DC Ron 98
WaoBand 64
Today's Birthdays
trptart
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5