Every time I set the sample rate on my Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 to 48k BIAB automatically reverts it back to 44.1k. How can I fix this problem? Do the Realtracks use 48k sample rate and does the sample rate setting even matter if I am not recording an audio input?
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I don't pretend to have the definitive answer on this age old question. For years I thought 44K was the answer. But in recent times I have done everything I can to harmonize 16bit, 48K for all audio applications on my machine. BIAB appears to have no problem with this (with one exception). The BIAB-VST, while working, continues to throw error messages regarding a mismatch sample rate. So here is my Audio Configuration on my DAW machine which runs BIAB, Reaper and of course system audio. Maybe you will see something that helps.
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I understand that 48K is the industry standard rate for Video. 44.1K is the industry standard rate for Audio.
What?
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Do the Realtracks use 48k sample rate and does the sample rate setting even matter if I am not recording an audio input?
Here is the typical answer to this question. Don't use ASIO with BIAB if you are not recording! Use MME I'll be quite now...
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Thanks Dan. I think your PC music configuration guide will be very useful. Also I will just switch BIAB to MME as you suggest. I never record in BIAB anyway. I just move the Realtracks or the BIAB VST to my DAW and record there.
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As you would know, they're all audio drivers. Their role is to process the information any audio signal creates and then send it to the speakers. In that regard, all are equally good. None is better than the other.
Where differences occur is how quickly the information gets to the speakers. In many cases, this is not a problem. If however, you wish to record vocals, or singalong/playalong via external equipment linked through the computer, there may be what's called a "lag time" between BIAB's audio information getting to the speakers and the external equipment's signals getting to the speakers.
This is where the different drivers matter.
MME gets information to the speakers the slowest (and so has the greatest lag time). ASIO and WAS both get the audio signal to the speakers quickly (and so have minimal lag time). I use MME unless I want to record in BIAB, and then I switch to ASIO to do that. Some soundcards don't work well with MME. Focusrite is one of these brands (if I recall correctly).
Lastly... in some circumstance, ASIO is a "one-rider pony" and if two audio applications both use ASIO, only only one will be heard. MME does not have this problem.
Noel's "ASIO is a one-rider pony" statement is important if one is using a DAW. I do not record in BiaB, all of my recording is done in my DAW. Having BiaB set to MME and my DAW set to ASIO I can have both programs open simultaneously. YMMV
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Wendy. What is your sound device ? If its multi client …and many arent (eg RME IS..great unit but outside some folks budgets) then you should be ok. Asio wise. what i recommend is to rent various audio interfaces and learn first hand how good its drivers are copacetic with your pc/music software....this is what i do if i'm in the market. in the reaband forum is a post listing the usb interfaces that people find work good in biab etc.
If NOT multi client then i would suggest you use WAS driver in biab. And if you use a separate Daw software use asio drivers ….for example i use WAS in biab and ASIO in reaper daw. Works a charm with reaps and bb open at same time.. This way i get low latency. I personally dont like mme but thats me.
the KEY is a good interface with good low latency drivers.
Best oldmuso.
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my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
Noel's "ASIO is a one-rider pony" statement is important if one is using a DAW. I do not record in BiaB, all of my recording is done in my DAW. Having BiaB set to MME and my DAW set to ASIO I can have both programs open simultaneously. YMMV
I do something like this in situations where I need two different audio sources active at the same time. As @marioD noted, the vast majority of ASIO drivers are NOT multi-client. The few that are tend to be very expensive.
Let's say that I've built a backing track in BiaB to play my bass with, and I want to record the combined result. I have BiaB configured to use my laptop's sound card (Realtek) and Studio One configured to use the ASIO driver for my PreSonus Studio 1810c audio interface. I use a 1/8" stereo to two 1/4" TRS mono cable to feed the BiaB audio on my laptop's headphones output to two Line Inputs on my 1810c (I use Input 5 for the left channel and Input 6 for the right channel). My bass is plugged into the Mic/Line/Instrument Input 1. My mic is plugged into Mic/Line Input 3. My headphones are plugged into Headphones Port 1 on the 1810c.
Since I'm playing and singing along with the audio I'm hearing on the headphones plugged into the audio interface, the latency (lag time) of the MME driver for the Windows sound card is irrelevant.
Note that I do try to keep the sample rate of both cards the same, for the times when I switch Windows to use the ASIO driver.
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On the note of ASIO only be able to be run in one program at time, you can uncheck "ASIO Always On" in Band-in-a-Box which you can find under Options | Preferences | Audio | Audio Drivers when set to ASIO, and turn off exclusive mode (if activated) in your Windows Sound settings, and this should allow ASIO to operate without getting any of those sudden No Sound issues in Band-in-a-Box after having ASIO be active in another program.
PG sent me instructions for MME, i,d like to record audio [ guitar/ mic] i,d just like to record or be able to at least anything !! Im not using MME tho! I obviously need ASIO ! Why send me instructions for MME then ? Thats a lot of settings you show on your link............. am intimidated...............i have to go thru all that?
I wonder if that explains why PG sent me instructions for MME? Never gotten past all these settings and stuff, never occured to me to export into my daw, however sure to connect mic or guitar biab needs to be in asio? Confused in north devon.
what is your sound device ?? on board pc sound or a proper usb studio interface...i recommend useing a proper interface.
please give details.
best om
my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs (90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
PG sent me instructions for MME, i,d like to record audio [ guitar/ mic] i,d just like to record or be able to at least anything !! Im not using MME tho! I obviously need ASIO ! Why send me instructions for MME then ? Thats a lot of settings you show on your link............. am intimidated...............i have to go thru all that?
MME isn't ideal for recording, so you'd want to use ASIO or WAS - both are low latency. ASIO is recommended for audio interfaces. You can see a video tutorial one of our staff put together here that goes over how to set up audio recording with an audio interface:
PG sent me instructions for MME, i,d like to record audio [ guitar/ mic] i,d just like to record or be able to at least anything !! Im not using MME tho! I obviously need ASIO ! Why send me instructions for MME then ? Thats a lot of settings you show on your link............. am intimidated...............i have to go thru all that?
05/21/2022
Originally Posted By: peterkirk
... Still not successfully connected Mic or guitar as yet nor since 2019. Cant even jam with it.
No. You don't. You don't have to suffer the intimidation or frustration.
Transition recording your mic and guitar over to a stand alone digital multi track recorder and either use the SD card or USB cable to move the recorded tracks to your PC and DAW.
Dump the audio interface. Tracks recorded on the external recorder will be indistinguishable from tracks recorded into an audio interface.
No MME No ASIO No WAS No Windows audio changes or setup No Drivers to load and configure No Latency No Input device to configure in BIAB/RB
For recording guitar and vocals, I recommend the Tascam DP-03SD. If you plan to do all of your post processing in your DAW, then the Tascam DP-006 will be sufficient for recording. Both the six tracks of the 006 and the eight tracks of the DP-03 are irrelevant to your specific needs and are not a restriction or limitation. These hardware devices are ideally suited and work extremely well with a program like BIAB that's generating high quality tracks to work with.
You'll enjoy immediate success recording your mic and guitar. It's simple to transfer recorded audio files back and forth between the recorder and your PC and DAW.
Here's a recent video describing using a hardware multi track recorder in a home studio.
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