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Well that's interesting.
If I got results like that I'd be discouraged too.
I have no idea how you did that. Is it the same BiaB file opened in RB?
Can I try it?
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Thanks for responding. Same file, opened in RB it gets corrupted. Realband has always done this to me. I don't know how to attach a file to this post, or I'd send you the SGU file.
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Anyone who would like to test this and see if you can duplicate what Bob saw (well, heard), here is the link to the SGU file on my Google Drive. Please do test this so we can see if anybody else gets that cacophony he appeared to. I got a nice, smooth, well done melodic backing track. GHOST RIDERS
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I just tested this and although I get the same sounds in RB as was in BiaB the balance was completely different. Since I don't use RB I don't know if this is common or not, however I did not here what Bob heard.
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I'm getting a Style not found error.
What number is this _Cream.sty ?
I may have missed a download .. guess it really doesn't matter as two others have said they don't get that mess Bob got.
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Thanks guys for looking at this. Apparently I've got a corrupted install of RB. I will uninstall/reinstall this morning. Interesting that Mario got a different balance in the mix though.
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I opened Eddie's file in BIAB and in REALBAND and did not really hear much difference at all. I have never had any issues with differences between RB and BB.
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I opened Eddie's BIAB file in REALBAND and got Drums not found error. Maybe the SGU file is corrupt and not the RealBand program. You might want to create a few quick SGU files and do further testing before doing a RealBand install.
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I ran the file through RB and with a little bit of regen on a few measures to clean up some bad chords I eednd up with a really nice backing track. I will put in on Soundcloud when I get home to my computer. A little production goes a long wY.
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I ran the file through RB and with a little bit of regen on a few measures to clean up some bad chords I eednd up with a really nice backing track. I will put in on Soundcloud when I get home to my computer. A little production goes a long wY. I will start by thanking you for offering to get the file to Bob Harvey. The song title is "Ghosts In The Rain", which was written, recorded and copyrighted by me in 2002. This file was just a rough attempt to re-record it with BIAB. It's not even a rough mix, I just wanted to have someone check it in RB to see if they got a different result. I NEVER expected you to re-mix it, 'clean up some bad chords', and "improve" it. As for putting it on Soundcloud- please don't. You don't own it. You didn't write it. Please Cease and Desist. Bob
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As for putting it on Soundcloud- please don't. Happy to comply with that request. My curiosity, and I am curious if nothing else, was mainly to see if others converted it and had the exact result since we all had the same base file to start with. That would be an exercise in seeing if Real Band, given the same SGU file to convert, would do exactly the same thing or it there are variances within their algorithms.
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RB uses a BiaB file to do this generation (which you learned in a different thread) .. I'm guessing they are pretty much doing the same thing since they use the same file.
So far nobody else has experienced much difference, which is nice
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I will start by thanking you for offering to get the file to Bob Harvey.
THE Bob Harvey?? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Harvey_(musician) /what just happened, did I get dragged into this?
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Hey, if you were "up to par" you'd still be playing with Jefferson Airplane!
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What number is this _Cream.sty ? It's from Set# RT 362, (2020/12). The memo states: Memo: This style features guitar, piano, synth, bass, and drums. -Examples: Yesterday, Sound of Silence, Genre "Intensity" Score=50/100
_CREAM.STY. Cream Slow Folk Ballad
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I ran the file through RB and with a little bit of regen on a few measures to clean up some bad chords I eednd up with a really nice backing track. I will put in on Soundcloud when I get home to my computer. A little production goes a long wY. I will start by thanking you for offering to get the file to Bob Harvey. The song title is "Ghosts In The Rain", which was written, recorded and copyrighted by me in 2002. This file was just a rough attempt to re-record it with BIAB. It's not even a rough mix, I just wanted to have someone check it in RB to see if they got a different result. I NEVER expected you to re-mix it, 'clean up some bad chords', and "improve" it. As for putting it on Soundcloud- please don't. You don't own it. You didn't write it. Please Cease and Desist. Bob I think he meant some bad sounding chords that BIAB/RB was playing not your composition! Probably should have told Eddie it was a copyrighted song. I have deleted the sgu after testing it. Thanks.
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I think he meant some bad sounding chords that BIAB/RB was playing not your composition! Probably should have told Eddie it was a copyrighted song. I have deleted the sgu after testing it.
Exactly ETC. There were 6 spots where the conversion from SGU to SEQ was bad and created some chords that were not what were in the SGU (and they were only on the string track). I regenerated those specific measures so the chords were what were in the original. I then adjusted levels so the level of the SEQ tracks matched the SGU file and not what the SEQ had. Specifically the strings were way too loud. Honestly I didn't pay any attention to playing technique. I actually thought it was "Ghostriders In The Sky" after the few listens I ran. I did not "rewrite" anything. The only reason I was going to put it on Soundcloud was so that others who tried to load the SGU into Real Band could compare to what my result was so I knew that Real Band created these same bad measures . I can add that I will likely never get involved with anything like this again if it is going to result in a veiled insinuation that I was stealing a song. All I did was offer to provide a means to share the original SGU, test it and provide a link to those who also wished to test it. I don't even like playing copies of popular songs. Lesson learned.
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I just got that style installed (missed it somehow) but now I can't hear your version to compare to what I get .. guess I was late to the same party twice  from memory what I got seems a lot closer to what was expected than in your sample .. though RB will never be exact (it regenerates everything)
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I just got that style installed (missed it somehow) but now I can't hear your version to compare to what I get .. guess I was late to the same party twice I don't have it any more. It was "insinuated/suggested" that I should delete it. So I ceased AND desisted. And deleted.
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