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Hey Mario, does anybody really know what time it is?
Chicago Transit Authority does  Does anybody really care? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgF_ycCmF18
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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Now we are getting somewhere!
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...buy the fastest CPU with the most ram and the largest HD(s) you can afford.
Bingo! It ain't rocket science. Dont' over think it.  Yep.
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Re…Not Rocket Science.
It might not be rocket science , but i would respectfully suggest getting a new//the right pc for music production is not a trivial matter…..as oodles of threads on various recording threads like gearspace and reaper.fm will attest, …as well as lots of you tube vids/pc builds etc…
And even people like Pete B of microsoft (who has a v nice recording daw rig..)...do an excellent article with lots of great advice.
In addition big recording studios often use custom builders of recording pc’s. They would not be doing that if it was easy to get any old pc off the shelf.
there are people also adept at pc builds who sometimes choose a builder of custom pc's for music production.
Then of course one sees on various forums including pg here , people new to daw’s having probs…often due to an underpowered pc not matching their true needs.
Frankly ive been very tempted this time…to go apple mini as i love the apple M processor power/tech approach.
But the number of ports and future expandability concerns/upgradeability has me concerned.
a desktop pc is more flexible.
I agree with Pete B of microsoft bout using desktops for music production.
So thats the route i will prolly take…with 3 v fast ssd’s. One for win…one for traks…one for sample orch libs. Etc .
Ps.
let me apologise as the op for not replying earlier.
The docs have had me wired up like one of those decades old synthesisers …lol, and running lots of tests. but thankfully just told all is great. So wife n i are really happy. Party party..lol.
happiness to all.
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my songs....mixed for good earbuds...(fyi..my vocs on all songs..) https://soundcloud.com/alfsongs(90 songs created useing bb/rb) (lots of tips of mine in pg tips forum.)
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...buy the fastest CPU with the most ram and the largest HD(s) you can afford.
Bingo! It ain't rocket science. Dont' over think it. Yep. This really says it all. If I were building a pro studio that was going to be doing this for others I would certainly look into a dedicated custom built machine that has all the bells and whistles for that sort of thing. But for my home use I get along just fine with what I have. I think storage and ram were key to me. I was tired of crazy dropouts etc. with 16GB of RAM. I remember when I thought I was something with my 1M of RAM! Only 640KB was usable unless you had a nice utility program to steal some of the forbidden ram! QEMM. Now I have 64 and it seems to be plenty. Everything is fast, no issues loading all I want and more.
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Re…Not Rocket Science.
It might not be rocket science ,...
You missed the point completely.
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Does anybody remember Gateway Computers before it was purchased by Compaq and then HP? Every desktop computer was a made-to-order unit, with bios and Windows custom configured to match the hardware. Even the order of the lines in the configuration file was massaged to make the unit work as smooth and fast as possible. The custom configuration was what set Gateway apart from the rest along with the black & white shipping containers that reminded you of a cow. Gateway built a configuration program that built the configuration file for each computer it sold. They don't have a configuration program but most audio computer custom builders extensively verify and test their equipment. They use experience to configure the motherboard and Window settings. That and technical support after the sale is what you pay for. For commercial production studios where downtime is costly the extra cost of a specialized and custom computer likely makes sense but for some hobbyists not so much. I believe off-the-shelf computers offer the best value for most hobbyists. New, refurbished, laptop or desktop goods is a personal choice. My one caution is to be careful of a refurbished builder, even one you find through a manufacturer's website. Manufacturers will list resellers that sell their computers. There is no formal definition of what constitutes refurbishment. For some builders it's clean inside and out and replace whatever doesn't work. For others it's just clean. A great warranty doesn't help if a unit spends half its time as downtime.
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My one caution is to be careful of a refurbished... Something else to bear in mind, though it can be hard to quantify, is that newer computers tend to be more energy efficient, so what you save on the buying price, you may instead spend on the electricity bill. A strong plus, though, is that one is helping to keep the things out of landfill!
Jazz relative beginner, starting at a much older age than was helpful.
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No landfill if you're courteous enough to take it to a recycling center. Of course in our society, that's asking a lot.
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I have both and I don't have an issue with either one. One issue with the i9 is I can not upgrade the processor without upgrading the board.
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New RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box 2025!
We’ve expanded the Band-in-a-Box® RealTracks library with 202 incredible new RealTracks (in sets 449-467) across Jazz, Blues, Funk, World, Pop, Rock, Country, Americana, and Praise & Worship—featuring your most requested styles!
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These RealTracks includes “Soul Jazz” with Neil Swainson (bass), Mike Clark (drums), Charles Treadway (organ), Miles Black (piano), and Brent Mason (guitar). Enjoy “Requested ’60s” jazz, classic acoustic blues with Colin Linden, and more of our popular 2-handed piano soloing. Plus, a RealTracks first—Tango with bandoneon, recorded in Argentina!
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You’ll also get slick ’80s metal guitar from Andy Wood, modern metal with guitarist Nico Santora, bass player Nick Schendzielos, and drummer Aaron Stechauner, more praise & worship, indie-folk, modern/bro country with Brent Mason, and “Songwriter Americana” with Johnny Hiland.
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- Look Ma! More MIDI 13: Country & Americana
- Instrumental Studies Set 22: 2-Hand Piano Soloing - Rhythm Changes
- MIDI SuperTracks Set 44: Jazz Piano
- Artist Performance Set 17: Songs with Vocals 7
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- Look Ma! More MIDI 14: SynthMaster,
- Instrumental Studies Set 23: More '80s Hard Rock Soloing,
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New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Mac!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
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Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Mac!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Mac & Windows Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
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Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
New! Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and Higher for Windows!
Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) is here with 200 brand new RealStyles!
We're excited to bring you our latest and greatest in the all new Xtra Styles PAK 20 for Band-in-a-Box! This fresh installment is packed with 200 all-new styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres you've come to expect, as well as the exciting inclusion of electronic styles!
In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
All the Xtra Styles PAKs 1 - 20 are on special for only $29 each (reg $49), or get all 209 PAKs for $199 (reg $399)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of the Xtra Styles PAK 20.
Video: Xtra Styles PAK 20 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
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Band-in-a-Box® 2025 for Macs®: VST3 Plugin Support
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