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Well here I am being all glib again. There was so much wrong with that video it is hard to discribe. That is not the way the program is supposed to behave. Five minutes I will never get back again. But if Adar puts his eyes on it that is your best bet for getting it straightened out.

By the way, did you try my configurations for Reaper? Cause I see you have the Audio outs all messed up (IMO) which can be fixed in the configuration settings. I really do hope Adar can point you in the right direction. smile


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Hi ,

For Reaper , I have tried the "dummy" audio driver with same results

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hi ,

same conditions , crash occured after only three generations :


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A video with reaper ( crashed at second generation) :

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Hi ,

Crashed almost immediatly unfortunately ... (both in Reaper and Vsthost64)

For Reaper , I prefer using separate outputs to equalize each track live (sent to jamtaba plugin)


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Those download vudios are freaking out my computer.... are you in eastern Europe?


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Gegu,
what version of Reaper? I don't have to go through much effort to load PG Music BIAB onto a track.
It won't have any impact but you should synch the tempos.
Have you checked the folder generated files are saved to? It may be going beyond it's nominated size...probably won't help either but worth checking.
That was a lot of regenerating...I don't do any changes or regenerations within Reaper as I feel much more comfortable doing the grunt work in the main BIAb prog...but I understand it was to get you to the crash point.
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Hi ,

Reaper version is 6.57 , but the problem exists also with another daw (Vsthost) , on two computers running Windows 11
(maybe this OS is more tricky about certain errors ?) ,and it can happen at the FIRST generation too.

Syncing the tempo before generating song does not help

I have checked disk space on both computers , it is OK

I have taken care to restart the computer before testing (but not always)

I am using the BIAB plugin as it permits to generate songs then play them without putting them on tracks (by just hiting the "play" button") , and I am using Reaperfor the jamtaba plugin (playing guitar on the internet live with an backing track fed directly by the BIAB plugin)

Anyway , let the developers investigate.

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Originally Posted By: gegu
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I am using the BIAB plugin as it permits to generate songs then play them without putting them on tracks (by just hiting the "play" button") , and I am using Reaper for the jamtaba plugin (playing guitar on the internet live with an backing track fed directly by the BIAB plugin)

You can try it with Rewire, you don't have to use the Reaper script with it. Just load the RewireVST into Biab then select Reaper.

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=251311

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The Biab rewire control GUI crashes too

Anyway , it is not as practical as using the plugin inside Reaper

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An error that occured while the DAW was idle :

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after a while I upgraded my BIAB 2022 with latest VST only to realize it is crashing my cubase 12 pro not loading songs which are saved in standalone BIAB??

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Originally Posted By: gegu
The Biab rewire control GUI crashes too

Anyway , it is not as practical as using the plugin inside Reaper


Is it the actual Rewire64Vst that crashes if so it's maybe Win11 issue:

Watch: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zu9hnipkjseu5n3/Reaper-Biab-RewireVST.mp4?dl=0

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Originally Posted By: Navid Syed
after a while I upgraded my BIAB 2022 with latest VST only to realize it is crashing my cubase 12 pro not loading songs which are saved in standalone BIAB??
It's best to start a new post detailing your specific issue. Piling one report on top of another means your report may not get the attention it deserves.

Check out +++ THIS +++ post and +++ THIS +++ post for suggestions about log files you can attach to your post that will help Adar, the main plugin developer, identify and fix the issue.


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Hi ,


I got this error while loading the BIAB plugin in VstHost :

Created VSTSynthFont64 instance 1 host=band-in-a-box
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Initialising VST: VSTSynthFont64 (2.0.0.0)
(2778.4c54): Invalid handle - code c0000008 (first chance)
First chance exceptions are reported before any exception handling.
This exception may be expected and handled.
ntdll!KiRaiseUserExceptionDispatcher+0x3a:
00007ff8`c8167eda 8b8424c0000000 mov eax,dword ptr [rsp+0C0h] ss:00000000`0013ef70=c0000008


the rendering plugin loaded by bbw4_64.exe was : E:\vstplugins\64 bits\PG Music\Band In A Box\VSTSynthFont64.dll

(version 3.4.3.1)

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I still don't understand why you need to use VSTHost in Reaper.
It seems unnecessary and the potential problem.


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Originally Posted By: Pipeline
..You can try it in KV Element in Reaper
load element as a vst3 plugin then drag and drop the BBPlugin into it, hook the in/out up then click the EXT top left to sync it.


VSTHost is old that's why I suggested trying in Element as this fixed all the crash problems I was having in Reaper, so I think it is worth a try.
You can also try https://jstuff.wordpress.com/pluginflipflop/


KV Element with BBPlugin in Reaper:


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Sorry, maybe I was not clear :

Vsthost is a standalone like Reaper , I tried it to see if the issue is only with Reaper


Btw , with Reaper , I have tried a minimal project with only one track containing the BIAB plugin , same issue
Another test was with Coyote VST (1.0.0.1) instead of VstSyntFont64 , same issue

Fwiw, the most common error encountered is heap corruption in the BIAB plugin


Would it be worth generating a song with only audio tracks (assuming that the synth vsti would be loaded but not used in this case ...) ?


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