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In my case, I reinstalled BIAB Version 2021 (845) after a disk crash.

I have a song using _JPLMBOS.STY that is 40 choruses of 32 bar length. Prior to the crash It used to take 15s-20s to generate and now it takes 3-4 minutes. Installed to the same disk...Any ideas?

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I wonder if you need to whitelist BIAB in Windows defender? I don't think it can hurt to try it and then remove the exclusion if you don't see improvement.

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Thanks, I whitelisted the entire folder. No change. Is there a temporary folder option that can be pointed to an SSD?

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I wonder if you need to whitelist BIAB in Windows defender? I don't think it can hurt to try it and then remove the exclusion if you don't see improvement.

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i also tried whitelisting the process itself. Again, no change.

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That can’t hurt to try.

What caused the crash, and how did you fix it? Is this the same hard drive? Reformatted? Checked for errors (bad sectors)? Is your anti-virus running full blast to check for errors?


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40 choruses of 32 bar length?

Do you mean 4 choruses?

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Keith, I too assumed that was a typo.


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There are two settings that can cause BIAB to take a long time to generate Realtracks. This would be noticeable if a song is 40 choruses at 32 bars per chorus (a total of 1280 bars).

1) Go into Realtrack preferences and check that "Speed up generation of Realtracks" is activated.

2) Right click on the chordsheet, select "Song Settings" and make sure that the option for "This song has playback problems, disable fast generation" is not active.

These options may help.

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P.S. There is also an option in Realtrack preferences where it's possible to select the quality of "Tempo/Pitch Stretching". If this is set to "High", it will slow things down a little but not to the extent that you are experiencing.


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Originally Posted By: jackzucker2000
In my case, I reinstalled BIAB Version 2021 (845) after a disk crash.

I have a song using _JPLMBOS.STY that is 40 choruses of 32 bar length. Prior to the crash It used to take 15s-20s to generate and now it takes 3-4 minutes. Installed to the same disk...Any ideas?

With the 255 bar limit, it definitely cannot be 40 choruses crazy

There is a setting you could check under Song Settings:

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I loaded up the style and the demo song and changed the choruses to 40.

Since there are multiple choices in the demo song, I made sure the demo style had the guitar 2 solo track and clicked generate.

The non-solo portion generated in about 13 seconds and the solo portion took 2:14 to generate for a total of 2:27 to complete.

I then closed BIAB, cleared my temp files and this time loaded the demo song WITHOUT the solo track and it took 17 seconds to generate and play the entire song.

I would say that if you have 40 choruses of soloing to generate, that will indeed add quite a bit of processing time to complete.

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I loaded up the style and the demo song and changed the choruses to 40.

Out of interest, how long does the song play for (how many choruses) before it stops playing? Presuming 32 bars per chorus, does it play 1,280 bars?


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Trev,

My understanding is that the "Number of choruses" is a way around the 255 bar limitation. I think this happens because each chorus is exactly the same and the song doesn't have to generate new material for each bar. I've always visualized that during the generation process, each chorus is stitched onto the previous one to make a kind of audio patchwork quilt. To be honest, though, I've never tried it. I could well be wrong.

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It took 38 minutes to play and it did play all 40 choruses with 32 bars.

Someone else needs to try 40 choruses with 255 bars. I'm done with it. laugh

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Originally Posted By: jcland
It took 38 minutes to play and it did play all 40 choruses with 32 bars.

Someone else needs to try 40 choruses with 255 bars. I'm done with it. laugh


Uh, no thanks. I guess if you wanted to get 38 minutes of practice time in playing the same chord progression over and over this would be a good idea. I imagine you would know the song quite well by the end of that!!


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Trev,

My understanding is that the "Number of choruses" is a way around the 255 bar limitation. I think this happens because each chorus is exactly the same and the song doesn't have to generate new material for each bar. I've always visualized that during the generation process, each chorus is stitched onto the previous one to make a kind of audio patchwork quilt. To be honest, though, I've never tried it. I could well be wrong.

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This is a revelation, that it actually works to play for 38 minutes.

To your question, I haven't tried this either, but I would expect a few differences. For example, if you had the setting on for Vary the Feel in the Middle Choruses (or whatever like that it's called), then you would have at least two choruses that would be different, or in other words 80 unique measures out of the 255 limit. And I'm assuming the limit is still there, or it would have been quite a major announcement. Something to experiment with, I guess.


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This is a revelation, that it actually works to play for 38 minutes.



This goes against ALL conventional wisdom (255 max!) regarding how may bars can be played over and over in BIAB.


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I actually started the song and turned the volume all the way down and just periodically look at it. Not going to listen to that for 3/4 of a hour.


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Did you have the song looped? If so, would you have noticed if you weren’t spending those full 38 minutes listening? I’m not trying to be cute here; it’s a genuine question since I’m still trying to figure out what really happens.


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