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about having vintage gear that I bought brand new....


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Hahaha...I feel the same when I see an item on Antiques Roadshow that I bought new!
And, yeah, I have a lot of vintage gear but it's stashed away including a Teac 4-Track reel to reel.

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I still play 2 Ensoniq keyboards I bought in 1988. And have never needed to take either of them in for a repair. Back then there was no planned obsolescence like today.

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Is a Yamaha TX81z or a Roland MT-32 vintage yet?

I have some older gear than that, like a 1925 H.N. White (later to be called King) alto saxophone, and a 1970 Gibson ES-330, but I didn't buy either one new.

I don't think of myself getting older, I consider myself a survivor.

Besides, I found the secret to eternal youth -- "Act Immature". laugh


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I own a Yamaha DX-27S which I bought where it was state of the art......


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I still have a Fostex R8 from 1988. Not sure if this is vintage but I have recorded tracks from a DAW into it and remixed them to see if tape did indeed add something. I'm not sure if the desired warmness was reached but there was a definate vibe to the mixdown.



Will have to ressurect the machine and give it another run. I still have a box full of tapes for it too.


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Notes, my sax is a King Cleveland from 1964. Meaning that it is likely my father worked on it as it was being assembled. The plant was on 52nd Street. We lived on 61st. My father worked there his entire working life. When Henderson White died, his widow Edna had dinner at our house many times.

THERE is some vintage right there.

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Notes, my sax is a King Cleveland from 1964. Meaning that it is likely my father worked on it as it was being assembled. The plant was on 52nd Street. We lived on 61st. My father worked there his entire working life. When Henderson White died, his widow Edna had dinner at our house many times.

THERE is some vintage right there.

That's cool history Eddie. King made some great instruments in Cleveland. They have a much better reputation than those built in Eastlake.

My King (H.N. White) alto is silver plated over dense brass.

Like many old saxes, the intonation is rough, meaning it takes a good ear and a quick lip on the reed to play all the notes in tune.

On the other hand, it has the voice of an angel.

Years ago I compared it to my friend's Selmer Mark VI alto, and we both agreed, the King sounded much better.

What I'd really like, but definitely can't afford, is an old King Super 20 Tenor "Silversonic" with the sterling silver neck and bell.

I had a Mark VI tenor once, then a VII, then a H.Couf Superba (IMO the best sax I've ever played), then a Grassi, now a custom-made MacSax and a Yamaha (Gotta have 2 tenors - just in case)

Before the VI I had a Conn "firworkes" and a Selmer Modele 26 with a Pan American backup horn. The Pan American was definitely student model and I only played it when my other horns were being overhauled.

Actually, I have another piece of vintage gear. It's a reed trimmer that I bought when I was in high school. Still have it, still occasionally use it.

I have a Berg Larson 100/0 Stainless mouthpiece that I no longer use, but will not part with.

I'm using an Otto Link 8/NY today. With the more modern, brighter sounding saxes, the slightly darker tone of the Link makes them sound better to my ears.

I bought the Berg probably in the mid 1960s.

The Berg sounded good on the darker VI and Couf, it helped put a rock/blues edge on the horns without going to a closed tip and harder reed. I like softer reeds as they allow me to make more different tones out of it, which I think gives the sax more vox humana.

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I was playing a Buescher horn that was about student level for a long time. I only played our old band's reunion shows so I only saw the horn section guys once a year. The story of when I bought that King horn includes me taking it to a store here (Academy Music) that happened to be owned by a guy whose father worked with my father, so we had known each other from company picnics since I was 8 and he was 6. He had a photo above the cash register that was taken from one end of the assembly line aimed down the line and his dad was the second man in, mine was 4th. So I took that horn in when it arrived from New York (and I STOLE it from the guy) and said "Tom, look at this." He took it out and just smiled and said "Wow. Where did you find this?" So I told him the story. He looked at the serial number and from experience knew when it was made. I told him "Do whatever you have to do to make it play." and I left. He called me the next day and said "It needed one pad and one key was out of adjustment. Your tab is 23 bucks."

The next weekend was the first horn section rehearsal. We usually ran the originals first because we have been playing them for decades and just needed to polish them before we moved on to the year's new material. When we finished the first song the tenor player (WAY better than me and WAY better ear) looked at me and said "You got a new horn, eh? It sounds" WAY better than the old one." He then handed me a tenor reed (I play alto) and suggested I try using a tenor reed so there was more wood vibrating, and wow did it sound bigger. I now play a Vandoren 5 with a star mouthpiece with tenor reeds and that 1964 horn sounds fantastic, minus the skill factor of the player... I don't play enough to be any good these days.

But even though my father and I were never really friends, I am happy to have that horn that he had a hand in building. When Tommy told me one key was bent I laughed inside thinking "He has been gone all these years and still found a way to try and sabotage me by bending that key on the horn he built in 1964."

Our relationship is a very sad and maddening story.

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The keyboards and cables you can flip into cash if you cared to. Depending on what they are, there will be somebody out thee with an emotional attachment to a specific keyboard.

I still play an Ensoniq ESQ-1 and an Ensoniq EPS16+ sampler that I have had since 1988. And the latest keyboard I bought is a Kuzweil K2500X that came out in 1996.

I have the old mixers and rack gear too. Back in a day I used a 6 channel rack mount mixer and matching EQ that are sitting here in the same old rack. That 8 space got replaced by a 14 space but there's no money in a 30 year old 8 space rack so it sits here.

I still love the analog synths, and if gas wasn't $47 a gallon I would be making a road trip to pick one up that someone is donating to the room. (Gas finally hit $5 where I live yesterday. Highest it has ever been here. Can you imagine the outrage had this happened in 2018 or 2019? Who would be getting the blame?) My old gear will sit here and die with me!

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