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Sorry Ray, I don't relate to this at all. Negative killer talk set to music is just not my thing.
(I'm not into horror films either.) I tried but I didn't make it past halfway of the short one - just too far from my taste so I can't help you with any meaningful critique. All I can say is since you use a mastering engineer instead of diy, I don't think overall sound quality is an issue for you so go with your gut. As popular as horror is, I'm sure there's plenty of audience out there.
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You do this music so well.
It's very difficult to capture and nail the vibe in this genre. You always totally succeed.
Loved it!
Bob
Thanks Bob, I'm not sure what genre it is but it came to me quickly - just took almost a year waiting for a vocalist. I'm pleased you enjoyed it.
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Sorry Ray, I don't relate to this at all. Negative killer talk set to music is just not my thing.
(I'm not into horror films either.) I tried but I didn't make it past halfway of the short one - just too far from my taste so I can't help you with any meaningful critique. All I can say is since you use a mastering engineer instead of diy, I don't think overall sound quality is an issue for you so go with your gut. As popular as horror is, I'm sure there's plenty of audience out there.
Josie No need to apologise Josie, I think the label "negative" may mess up the sentence a bit but I get your drift. The fictional narrative of a member of a demographic, that is becoming more & more abundant in the USA, is more a cautionary tale and, to relieve the tension, the denouement within the last two choruses, had you made it that far, may have alleviated the horror. The songs are sonically identical but for the emergency call & gun shot in the longer version. The M.E. preferred the shorter. Thanks for making the attempt.
Last edited by rayc; 09/30/22 08:07 PM.
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Hi Ray ...
I personally enjoyed the shorter version slightly more. Both were excellent, but the mix on the shorter version sounded better in my ear. For me, the most prominent factor in the decision was that the bass line came across more dramatic to to me. It seemed to have had a slight more higher EQ (which I thought nmasde it more robust or definitive) and it was soightly more prominent in the mix.
Now, the 75 year-old ears might niot hear as some of the younger forum members might hear it. Over 50 years of a guitar amp in my ears hasn';t been helpful to my ears in these laster years. Thus, you muight want to take my comments with a grain of salt. But, nonetheless, that how it sounded to me.
Regardless of the version, I think this is the very best of anything you've post in this forum. I was a good listen either way,. Good luck with the project ...
Alan
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Hi Ray ...
I personally enjoyed the shorter version slightly more.
Regardless of the version, I think this is the very best of anything you've post in this forum. I was a good listen either way,. Good luck with the project ...
Alan Thanks Alan, I still haven't made up my mind about which I prefer. As far as projects go this song is done and dusted and will sit in a folder until I decide, someday, to do something with the stuff with it. Again, thanks.
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Hi Ray,
We agree with Brian, we like the shorter version a bit more.
That bass/guitar sounds a bit like the Cure's "A Forest".
W definitely like that!
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Hi Ray,
We agree with Brian, we like the shorter version a bit more.
That bass/guitar sounds a bit like the Cure's "A Forest".
W definitely like that!
Rob and Anne-Marie
Thanks RnAM, I was lucky enough to see pre A Forest The Cure...great live pub show. Another vote for the short...ta!
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Very cool song!!! All of the production sounds great to me! Nicely done!! Take care. Greg
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Ray,
Listened to the short version first. I like the whispered vocal; I think it works well and augments the sung vocal and makes it pop more. Great mix, well-executed. Nice punky, retro vibe for me. Pretty cool video—well done. Cool tune!
I moved on thereafter to the longer version, and I was reticent about the tune being longer . . . plus, I generally think shorter is better and at 3:36 it sits at a nice length.
Ok, so I’m surprised, I thought it would be longer. The difference is only 9 seconds? Is that right? I wouldn’t sweat that difference—go your gut and the version that works for you. And if I’m to be honest . . . I’m not sure I discerned the differences on my casual listen.
Great song, whichever version! Oh, and like Floyd, I love that "ping-ponging" effect at 1:30 . . . cool, creative touch.
Hope all is good with you,
Deej
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Ray,
Listened to the short version first. I like the whispered vocal; I think it works well and augments the sung vocal and makes it pop more. Great mix, well-executed. Nice punky, retro vibe for me. Pretty cool video—well done. Cool tune!
I moved on thereafter to the longer version, and I was reticent about the tune being longer . . . plus, I generally think shorter is better and at 3:36 it sits at a nice length.
Ok, so I’m surprised, I thought it would be longer. The difference is only 9 seconds? Is that right? I wouldn’t sweat that difference—go your gut and the version that works for you. And if I’m to be honest . . . I’m not sure I discerned the differences on my casual listen.
Great song, whichever version! Oh, and like Floyd, I love that "ping-ponging" effect at 1:30 . . . cool, creative touch.
Hope all is good with you,
Deej
Thanks Deej, Not much longer but the folley additions do make a significant difference to the song - some say spoiling it, some say signalling the surprise ending and some say it's simply unnecessary.
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Hi Ray,
It was a very pleasant experience listening/watching your short video. I come back to that in a moment,
The other long video did not work. couldn't figure out what I had to do. It said it didn't work in the simple modus.
I didn't know I was in that modus myself, so.
That makes I can only respond to your short video/song, And my first sentence was how I felt and feel.
I liked everything you did, even the vocals. They were very strong here (although you whispered for sometime...)
I wrote a post to Floyd about his song, saying I was away for some time and that I noticed some things never changed, etc, etc
But I was wrong I see now; you changed! What a good mix and clear vocals/instruments. And yes, like B&J said; the reaction of Floyd nailed it. I think the same.
Nice day,
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Very cool song!!! All of the production sounds great to me! Nicely done!! Take care. Greg Thanks Greg.
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Hi Ray,
It was a very pleasant experience listening/watching your short video. I come back to that in a moment,
The other long video did not work. couldn't figure out what I had to do. It said it didn't work in the simple modus.
I didn't know I was in that modus myself, so.
That makes I can only respond to your short video/song, And my first sentence was how I felt and feel.
I liked everything you did, even the vocals. They were very strong here (although you whispered for sometime...)
I wrote a post to Floyd about his song, saying I was away for some time and that I noticed some things never changed, etc, etc
But I was wrong I see now; you changed! What a good mix and clear vocals/instruments. And yes, like B&J said; the reaction of Floyd nailed it. I think the same.
Nice day,
Hans Thanks Hans, I'm pleased you like it. You can thank the M.E. for the clearer vocal...he insisted it would better suit this song. It was his idea to whisper the 1st verse too.
Cheers
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This is really good. Your vocal has presence, and I don't have to strain to make out the words. LOVE the guitar.
I don't have any preference between the two versions. Both work for me.
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Ray, this is hands down my favorite of yours so far! Everything you did here is super good! Love that syncopated stuff going on in the rhythm section! Instruments are mixed in excellent fashion! You really know how to put a song together! Thanks, Torrey
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