Is there such a thing in Band in a Box? I use BIAB to make lead sheets and like to keep them to one page/screen if I can and still make it readible.
I searched the Help for Dal Segno but it wasn't listed. When I use a repeats, I usually add a tag ending and use Song Settings to jump to the tag ending at the correct point. You can right-click on a cell in the Chord Sheet and choose 'Repeats/Codas/1st-2nd endings', which gives the display shown in the 2nd image below.
The Help shows this:
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It isn’t important if you (or we) call it a Coda or a tag, the important point is that Band-in-a-Box supports both a coda that occurs every chorus, and one that occurs only on the very last chorus. When we simply refer to a "coda" we are referring to an "every-chorus" coda, and when we refer to a "tag" we are talking about the "last-chorus-only" coda.
You can enter a "Tag" (i.e. Last chorus only Coda), by selecting Repeats/Codas/1st- 2nd Endings from the right-click menu on the chord sheet and selecting [Tag Ending…] button.
You enter a normal "Coda" (i.e., every chorus Coda) by a right-click on the Chord Sheet, then Repeats/Codas/1st-2nd Endings, and then clicking on the required type of DS/DC al Coda.
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This may or may not be the answer you're looking. I was classically trained to read music on the printed page and follow the musical road signs so naturally, I tried to do that with BiaB when I first started. That was an adventure in frustration especially the more complicated the musical directions needed to be.
My solution was to simply UNFOLD the song to a single chorus that was linear in it's path. No repeats... simply start at the beginning and go straight through to the end. Yeah, it uses more measures but I have never ever come close to running into the hard limit on the number of measures. Even the longer length songs rarely exceed 50% of the limit.... (Limit is 255 measures IIRC)
Build the song the way you want.... intro, verses, copy and paste for more, choruses, bridges, and the ending.... all in a straight linear line.
I love working in that linear form now.
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The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
And to do what Herb is describing, you can highlight ranges of chords and do a copy/paste. There is also an Edit, Copy Special, From/To command for the MIDI melody and harmony.
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It isn’t important if you (or we) call it a Coda or a tag, the important point is that Band-in-a-Box supports both a coda that occurs every chorus, and one that occurs only on the very last chorus. When we simply refer to a "coda" we are referring to an "every-chorus" coda, and when we refer to a "tag" we are talking about the "last-chorus-only" coda.
Hmm interesting ... the manual doesn't say that, just "tag (coda)" or "A tag (also referred to as a coda) is a group of bars played in the very last chorus only", which is how I understood it.
I shall try the "Help" version as I've struggled and given up trying to get an "in the very last chorus" interpretation of a coda to work.
Last edited by Gordon Scott; 12/06/2208:13 AM.
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Even in dedicated music notation programs, getting a score to PLAY a DS and take the 2nd ending is difficult or unsupported. I handle that with text directions to the player, such as “Last X, 2nd ending”. That’s also pretty normal for jazz players and standards.
The original request is different from a coda, which I agree BIAB handles as best it can as a Tag.
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I understand the point on unfolding, however, the O/P specifically stated:
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"I use BIAB to make lead sheets and like to keep them to one page/screen if I can and still make it readible"
so I was trying to find a solution that met this requirement. Most likely 'unfolding' would not be suitable.
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This may or may not be the answer you're looking. I was classically trained to read music on the printed page and follow the musical road signs so naturally, I tried to do that with BiaB when I first started. That was an adventure in frustration especially the more complicated the musical directions needed to be.
My solution was to simply UNFOLD the song to a single chorus that was linear in it's path. No repeats... simply start at the beginning and go straight through to the end. Yeah, it uses more measures but I have never ever come close to running into the hard limit on the number of measures. Even the longer length songs rarely exceed 50% of the limit.... (Limit is 255 measures IIRC)
Build the song the way you want.... intro, verses, copy and paste for more, choruses, bridges, and the ending.... all in a straight linear line.
I love working in that linear form now.
That's the way I have always done it. I did create a song on BIAB using the ds al Coda/Tag and it worked well. Also like you, I am trained to read sheet music.
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