I've got the next chord a Cb9#9 ( c2 e2 a#2 e3 a#3 c#4 d#4). The problem is I cannot find this chord in the chord builder. Did I miss something or is it not there? What can I do to make this work in the chord progression?
FWIW, I misunderstood that first read as a Cb with a 9 and a #9, where I now think it's a C with a b9 and a #9.
Someone with more experience of building chords in BiaB may help, but my feeling at present is that that chord+voicing is probably out of BiaB's scope.
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C E G which you don’t have Bb - a flat 7 rather than a sharp 6 Db - flat 9 D# - sharp 9, although I would use Eb to look better
This chord is not directly supported in BIAB.
This is assuming as Gordon did that the root is C. When you start a chord with Cb it is ambiguous whether that means B, or C with a flatted ninth.
Assuming the root is C, you have two possibilities I can think of:
1) use C7alt and hear a combination of sharp or flat 5th and/or sharp or flat 9th
2) write a C7#9 chord then manually edit it using the new Playable RealTracks feature in BIAB 2023, add the b9 and possibly take out the G Then copy this chord as needed.
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2) write a C7#9 chord then manually edit it using the new Playable RealTracks feature in BIAB 2023, add the b9 and possibly take out the G Then copy this chord as needed.
I would pay to see that done in BIAB. It would be a master class.
He asked if it is supported, and that answer is No.
He then asked if it could be done, and I think it can.
It is an interesting question. I didn't even address if it makes sense. I personally would not want to hear a dominant seventh chord with no fifth, and both the flat and sharp nine added. Perhaps 7alt will work. If not, choose either the flat nine or the sharp nine over a dominant seventh. Those are supported. Then if he thinks there is still a missing note, put it in the melody.
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I spent 45 minutes and actually got close to doing this as you suggest, but the learning curve is steep. I was working in the key of F# because I thought the Cb9#9 would resolve to F# - the sharpes were killing me in the BIAB notation editor. And I was using a simple style which was actually not simple enough for me. So I need to start over with "block" chord style and try again.
If I get it I will post the video. It does seem doable.
This keeps coming up regularly over the years. As I mentioned before you now have playable realtracks, it even has a volume adjust now in the piano roll rather than having to open the VSTi. There is so much potential here to do lots of things, I can add bends, vibrato, pull-offs and hammer-ons to the notes or extra chord notes. All this can be made to be done intelligently by Biab.
I was able to use the PRTs to substiture into the piano roll a Cb9#9 for the C7#9. It was tedious. The change was made to an e-piano RT and the sound change between the HiQ midi synth and the RT were barely perceptable.
It was an interesting exercise for me since the PRTs have been with us for over a year and this is the first time I have messed with them. But, the workflow performs as advertized.
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