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Has anyone noticed REASON's Chord Sequencer feature.
You can choose the type of music, and then some chord suggestions will be given. When you click a start, he will recommend some chords. I don't know if BAND IN A BOX has a similar function?


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I'm not a Reason user (for an unknown reason). However, I'm not aware of this exact type of feature currently being available in Band In A Box - well, at least in the way reason delivers it.

(Additionally, the user interface looks quite stylish. smile )

Others may know more.


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Well, in a way, BIAB does that already via the Demo songs even though it's just one chord structure suggestion per style.


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If you go to support, videos, slide down to intermediate third column over fifth video down there is one called chord builder. It may not be as fancy as the reason tool, but very usable I have worked out several projects with it. Be patient and watch all the way through. Here is a link.

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There are two useful BIAB features that will meet you halfway, using one of two different methods:

1. Write some chords, highlight them, and go to Edit, Chords, then one of the options for Chord Substitution.

2. Write a melody on the MIDI track, and go to Edit, Chords, then one of the options for Chord Reharmonization.

I like these because they require some effort on your part to begin writing the rudiments of a song, rather than just choosing a genre.


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The Chord Builder (Ctrl+Shift+B, or right-click anywhere on the chord sheet and select Chord Builder) has a section that shows you chords that you can use. There is a ton of information in this dialog. In the Chord Theory section hover over each of the row headings to learn what each row of chords is used for. The top line of chords are the diatonic chords in the key. Most pop tunes use combinations of these chords. If you want to spice up the chord progression, add some chords from the lower rows. Click on the chord button in the row to insert the chord at the current location. Additionally, if you click on the right portion of the chord button, the drop-down menu gives you all the different variations / qualities of that chord, for example, C, Cmaj7, Cmaj9, and so on.


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Originally Posted By: Andrew - PG Music
The Chord Builder (Ctrl+Shift+B, or right-click anywhere on the chord sheet and select Chord Builder) has a section that shows you chords that you can use.



thank you.


If possible, please add a keyboard to "The Chord Builder".


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Maybe but not really needed just click on the chord to hear it.


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What that Reason applet shows you is a set of chords that work with the key you have selected. While the BIAB Chord Builder is powerful, it is basically a tool to create a chord if you already pretty much understand how to select chords to begin with, i.e., create progressions.

Here are a couple very useful diagrams that show you the relationships and order of progress of diatonic chords from the tonic chord of the key you select to work with.

Major Key Chord Map

Minor Key Chord Map

Mugglinwork's Theory For Songwriters is a great free resource.


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Originally Posted By: DFT
What that Reason applet shows you is a set of chords that work with the key you have selected. While the BIAB Chord Builder is powerful, it is basically a tool to create a chord if you already pretty much understand how to select chords to begin with, i.e., create progressions.

Here are a couple very useful diagrams that show you the relationships and order of progress of diatonic chords from the tonic chord of the key you select to work with.

Major Key Chord Map

Minor Key Chord Map

Mugglinwork's Theory For Songwriters is a great free resource.



This seems to be helpful. But I don't quite understand.
I need to take my time.


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Learning the rudiments of music theory and learning to play a bunch of songs obviates the need for apps of this nature.

Its really not that hard.


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Originally Posted By: swingbabymix


This seems to be helpful. But I don't quite understand.
I need to take my time.


Micro-mini course. Read the legend at the bottom of the diagrams. The 'I' chord is the tonic chord. Were we in the key of C Major, the C Major chord would be the 'I' chord. The 'V' chord is the dominant chord. In the key of C Major this is G Major chord. So in Key of C Major I = C; ii = Dm (minor chords are lower case); iii = Em; IV = F; V = G; iv = Am; and iiv = B diminished. This use of Roman numerals is usually called the 'Nashville System.'

In other words, whatever key you chose, take G Major for example, G will now be the 'I' or tonic.

The beginning rule of progressions - to be broken once you understand it - is start with a tonic or 'I' and end with a dominant or 'V' before returning to the tonic in the next verse, chorus, etc.

These diagrams work for all keys as they focus on the intra-key relationships common to all. There are directional arrows to certain of the green shapes that indicate when you leave the blue areas, sometimes there are only specific ways there and back.

These diagrams contain practically everything anyone needs to know about which chord can follow which chord.

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under melody there is an option to generate a solo with chords - in essence to create a complete song at the touch of a button which is what the OP seems to be looking for in many posts.

choose the soloist closest to what you want and BIAB will generate melody and chords. surely a good way to achieve some ideas of what works and what doesn't? and of course things will be differeent every time you generate a new song from the melody drop down.

seems closer to what the OP wants than asking him to learn a lttle about music which doesn't seem to go down too well

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There is a nice bit in Rick Beato's "what makes this song great" series with Seal and "A Kiss From A Rose", where Rick asks Seal the thinking behind a particular strange but beautiful chord progression and Seal just says "Nobody told me I couldn't do that".


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