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I want to make backing tracks where realtracks and midifile playing together, but have trouble getting them in sync.
What I do is: I open a midifile I like in BIAB and "Find a RealTracks Style Replacement for current MIDI style". I then Drag and Drop this Realtracks file to Realband. Then import the original midifile in Realband, because I want a few tracks playing together with the Realtracks(I don't want to use the Soloist). The problem is the midifile is not playing in sync with the BIAB Realtracks. Is there an easy solution to my problem? How can I get them in sync?
Roger
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Make sure your soundcard is set to 44.1 not 48 as the sample rate.
If that isn't it, please tell us more about your system, particularly your operating system, soundcard and drivers. Also, please describe how they are out of sync. Is it constant, or shifting? Does everything work correctly in BIAB, just not in RB?
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I'm confused here - when I display the Midi/Audio Drivers set up, it tells me to set the latency at 120 for MS GS WT... I do that, and when I close, a pop-up displays telling me that the MS GS WT should have a latency of 205.... HUH???
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For Win 7 200(+) is recommended,, for XP 120 is recommended. No idea why..
These are recommended starting points.
I like to use the latency adjust app inside RB to set the numbers, then use the same settings in BiaB.
Click the Latency Adjust button in the RB Midi Devices window to find it.
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I don't use RealBand, but if there is a latency adjustment in it like the one in BIAB, it would make sense to adjust both the same, wouldn't it? Isn't this setting unique to each machine?
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The mix of realtracks and midifiles was playing in sync in biab, but when I drag and drop this files in realband they was out of sync. I notice that by default the realband has a 120 tempo setting, and the files I was working with i biab was 114. It seems like realband handles the realtrack and midifile different when the tempo setting in realband and biab are different, so the result is out of sync when playing. I now adjust the tempo setting in realband to the same as in biab BEFORE drag&drop a mix of realtracks/midifiles, and everything is ok Thank you for comments roger 
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The mix of realtracks and midifiles was playing in sync in biab, but when I drag and drop this files in realband they was out of sync. I notice that by default the realband has a 120 tempo setting, and the files I was working with i biab was 114.
It seems like realband handles the realtrack and midifile different when the tempo setting in realband and biab are different, so the result is out of sync when playing. I now adjust the tempo setting in realband to the same as in biab BEFORE drag&drop a mix of realtracks/midifiles, and everything is ok
Thank you for comments
roger
Interesting.
Apparently drag and drop works the same way as exporting to WAV and MIDI...
Be aware that once a WAV file is created, the tempo and pitch become frozen. (but the midi will still adapt to any tempo changes... so that's why your project got out of synch: the WAV was still playing in the original saved tempo but the MIDI adapted to the different tempo setting in RB. When you changed the RB tempo to match the BIAB tempo, your midi got back in time with the static WAV file)
Upshot is, if you drag and drop (or export to wav, then import in another DAW) the pitch and tempo will need to be the same as in your original project.
One of the advantages of using RealBand instead of other DAW programs is that you don't have to export the project from BIAB and re-import it. RB knows how to open files saved in the BIAB file format. You can open ANY BIAB file and when it opens in RB you can continue modifying it.. yes, even by changing the tempo or key and reprocessing it!
The cool thing about Real Tracks is that (in their native environment) they adapt to changes in pitch and tempo. But, you lose that if you bring in WAVs that are already bound to a static tempo or pitch. An exported WAV of a real track is not as flexible as the real track itself, if that makes any sense.
Last edited by Pat Marr; 01/09/11 06:43 AM.
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