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When I log into this forum the it would be safe to assume that the software running this thing knows what forum I had just selected before finding out that the forum doesn't remember me, yet again. So I go to fear and loathing central to log in, but does the software give a damn what screen I just left. Apparently not. I'm left sitting here looking at stuff I don't want to know. Instead of returning to the page I was in. That's a line of code with probably less than 20 characters in it.
And that's just a lovely way to start trying to find why four times in an hour today and everyday since a few days after I installed audio FILE version[ think 10 inch bastard] when I click just about any button I get access violation with something about bbw exe. and a bunch of numbers TS does not want to know about if you start reading them over the phone. This company made a money decision to suck up to the windoze money pool. The TS people ought to know something about this kreeepy platform. A good example would be: almost an hour on the phone trying to figure out why all real tracks have static-like distortion, it's somewhat different from digital distortion or clipping as it sounds more analog. [ like rubbing a battery across speaker terminals] after some very thorough examination of EVERYTHING, I was told my mb is dying or dead as far as audio is concerned or that my audio interface is dying or dead after going thru every possible thing in XP32 and biab and maudio ad tedium. I very much appreciated the guy taking the time and he was helpful in the extreme, friendly and totally professional. Thank You for that sincerely. These guys and ladies do a very good job at a tough task. I took my pc and interface to a musician who works in pc platforms all the time. He had it about an hour and found ONE of the problems. THE MONITOR RESOLUTION??? It's a 2.8 Ghz dual amd processor that idles when playing or loading four instrument real tracks. But change to 1024 by 768 and the distortion goes away. I admit I would not have considered that. He's spent his time in pc hell. Even he choked on PG knowledge bass or what ever it is called.
Now this access violation crap is swirling this app. into the white porcelain hole of DOS doo doo. I warned the guy when he said Oh we'll just look that up. He hasn't visited your Knowledge?? center. There must have been a thousand lines of questions on that page. WHo in his right mind would go Oh ok I'll just scan that shit for two hours instead of doing what I bought this stuff to do. MAKE MUSIC. PRACTICE! not dick around in dos ofal. What would be so hard about a real search function? But please not the engine used in your HELP????????????? Really? It finds every banal instance of every word in the string never once recognizing it as a complete phrase or thought. Quotes? it just laughs and shows me every email that mentions each of the string words.
There is a question in here somewhere, why can't I find the two files below anywhere in the first level of Biab's terabyte wonder klunk, or in the folders I opened to look in the second level. This terabyte drive acts like the actual nuts and bolts are a state secret. Where is Interface.bbw. and let's not forget MySetup.DK? Instead of telling people to delete these files why not find out what corrupts them and fix it? I don't know who PG thinks uses this software but I can't think of anyone who would put up with much of this kind of performance in the middle of a music project or practice session. So sorry for my bad attitude, but I got it the hard way I earned it with a bunch of money very little product so far.
Ron
`15 Audiophile, Toshiba17", 3Mhz, 4gig ram, 500gig HD, Win7, Tascam 122mkII interface, Tascam 16 track 8 buss recording mixer, 2 Avalon747sps,CAD VX2 mic, AKG C1000s, mac and Digital Performer.
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Hi Ron,
I'm not quite sure what to make of your post. Are you after help with something or simply venting? If you have a user problem(s) that you'd like help with, can you please let us know a little more simply what the problem is and we'll do what we can to help.
Over the years, I've discovered that when any program is not working properly, one of the first things to check is to see if video and audio drivers are running the latest updates. Many posts on these forums have attested to the value of doing this check, too.
Also, don't forget that if you are unhappy with the program, PG Music will refund your money provided it's within 30 days of your purchase.
Regards,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2025
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There are literally 99 happy users for every unhappy one. This usually means that the software works. If you are having Video resolution problems, then i suggest you check and see is you have a IRQ conflict of a driver issue. But i really doubt it is a true software problem. Sounds like a hardware conflict.
Exactly what is wrong, not in cryptic sarcastic satire! Just simple explain what is happening. I use the software every day on an old tired system, but it is very close to flawless. I did almost nothing to set it up. But my system was designed for audio.
HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2025, Realband, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 9 32c , Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app.
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The interface and other file are in the X:\bb directory. Now if you copied them to your main drive, well, it's in the target drive.
Mines on C:\bb\interface.bbw.
And the other file will be in the same directory.
It makes no sense whatsoever for a computer that ran fine to mess up because band in a box installs:
1. fonts, can't mess up a video card.
2. The shortcut to the program...nothing weird there.
3. ahah...the vsts etc...and those are sound files.
Now that might be the culprit. You have something latched in there that shouldn't be. It would mess up all the sound if it was corrupt and in the wrong spot. Now I'm a bit of a detective, but when it comes to the operating system and the way those things work I've no clue. I do a bit in Linux but everyone needs to know this.
What computer specs. What soundcard. What operating system.
And by the way, using google to search the band in a box forums is way better. They bought the software to run the forums form whoever wrote them, and it's limited in what it does, like are most of the forums I hang out on.
Just a fact of life.
I went to play a few songs today and the strap on my accordion, which I bought for 75 bucks but is worth 4 or 500, just snapped. Old leather. NO way to fix it. I tried to hold the thing this way and that. Had I some duct tape I would have taped it to me, or made a strap. Then they found some, and we were done, and I did make a sort of working strap out of duct tape. I took the roll out of the Van when I dumped it and decided not to pack a full 80 pound 3 foot by 2 foot toolbox in the Mini Cooper. Ah life...it's supposed to be a bowl of cherries and then you find out about the pits.
John Conley
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Oh and just use find on those files and go to where they reside if you don't know. If you are familiar with what should be running or not on a computer and start killing processes that look suspect it just might fix the problem, but if it's an effect and plugged and wrong it might just start again when you reboot.
As one user found out here, after much hand wringing, and people jumping in, it can be just a bad cable that crapped out.
The wife to me yesterday. "There's a puddle downstairs...."
I can't get there very well, but a hose for the washing machine on the hot water side is leaking. It's like 12 months old. But I send her for a new hose. I just came up after putting it on, and it was rusted so no rotation. Cut it with a tile cutter to get it off. Take out the washer and it's perforated right through by rust. Now had I been on vacation in a few months in Europe and the thing let go, it would have flooded the basement. And run and run down the drain. A thousand bucks to the city for water and sewer surcharge, and how much in gas for the water heater over 3 weeks. Ok so my son checks the house every 3 days BUT...still.
John Conley
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Thanks to those who made it to the questions and answered. It occured to me after I got over another failed attempt to get some use out of this app. that there has to be a find function to do that job. I'll give it a shot.
Ron
`15 Audiophile, Toshiba17", 3Mhz, 4gig ram, 500gig HD, Win7, Tascam 122mkII interface, Tascam 16 track 8 buss recording mixer, 2 Avalon747sps,CAD VX2 mic, AKG C1000s, mac and Digital Performer.
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Hello John,
As a veteran on the forums, I would expect you to appreciate the request for a 21th century forum search. If only to let (new) users find out the answers to their questions are already given. There's a wealth of knowledge in these forums, but it is really hard to tap into. The fact that you suggest that we use google to search the forums confirms that.
I myself just started posting here, but I can imagine users with a lot of forum time under their belt getting a bit frustrated now and then by having to answer the same stuff over and over. However, it is my experience in other forums that some people just love to recycle bits of knowledge that they have, for these people, I would understand if they don't see a reason to ask for improvements.
Eddy
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Well there is the wish list. Someone with a keener eye than I might know of a forum software that includes advanced function crossed with security and the ability to track 100,000 posts and index them. The primary problem is terminology and commonality of descriptors. So if you are having trouble with chords, and go searching for help in the forums, the word comes up 3 times a day, giving you over 1000 hits per year. Then it turns out the user didn't mean what they said, and frustration comes in.
I was very off and on forum user for many years, I worked full time and my wife and I owned a business with 10 employees. Then I sold the business and started back playing. Then I cut back my hours and got more into the forum. Then I retired and did more and more with Band in a Box. And then I acquired disabilities that tether me to the house and a couple of chairs so I tend to do more.
A rewrite of the FYI stuff, and more tutorials would be a great start. Some people who arrive here seem to not know there is a manual, make one post about a stupid product, and never watch a tutorial. It's a wonder people here have the patience to answer their posts, and often they persist for weeks and the question should have been answered by support but you figure they can't phone there, they didn't even buy the software. Hard to return a program you never paid for in that case. I hope it topped of their bandwidth.
John Conley
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Ron, when looking for a file on a computer use the operating system and find. Once the regulars who are more conversant with plug ins are up and about they can chime in. I still suspect that, however there is the dreaded coincidence. Sometimes another change to the computer configuration factors in and complicates things.
As I said earlier, Band in a Box installs almost nothing into the operating system except some fonts. All the rest sits in the actual folder and has no impact on sound. If all .wav files and .mp3 files are not playing right then it pretty much has to be a plug in corruption of some kind, and it should be possible to manage those.
John Conley
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In this PAK you’ll discover: Minimalist Modern Funk, New Wave Synth Pop, Hard Bop Latin Groove, Gospel Country Shuffle, Cinematic Synthwave, '60s Motown, Funky Lo-Fi Bossa, Heavy 1980s Metal, Soft Muted 12-8 Folk, J-Pop Jazz Fusion, and many more!
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Note: The Xtra Styles require the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition of Band-in-a-Box®. (Xtra Styles PAK 20 requires the 2025 or higher UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition. They will not work with the Pro or MegaPAK version because they need the RealTracks from the UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, or Audiophile Edition.
New! XPro Styles PAK 9 for Band-in-a-Box 2025 and higher for Windows!
We've just released XPro Styles PAK 9 for Windows & Mac Band-in-a-Box version 2025 (and higher) with 100 brand new RealStyles, plus 29 RealTracks/RealDrums!
We've been hard at it to bring you the latest and greatest in this 9th installment of our popular XPro Styles PAK series! Included are 75 styles spanning the rock & pop, jazz, and country genres (25 styles each) that fans have come to expect, as well as 25 styles in this volume's wildcard genre: funk & R&B!
If you're itching to get a sneak peek at what's included in XPro Styles PAK 9, here is a small helping of what you can look forward to: Funky R&B Horns, Upbeat Celtic Rock, Jazz Fusion Salsa, Gentle Indie Folk, Cool '60s Soul, Funky '70s R&B, Smooth Jazz Hip Hop, Acoustic Rockabilly Swing, Funky Reggae Dub, Dreamy Retro Latin Jazz, Retro Soul-Rock Fusion, and much more!
Special Pricing! Until July 31, 2024, all the XPro Styles PAKs 1 - 9 are on sale for only $29 ea (Reg. $49 ea), or get them all in the XPro Styles PAK Bundle for only $149 (reg. $299)! Order now!
Learn more and listen to demos of XPro Styles PAKs.
Video: XPro Styles PAK 9 Overview & Styles Demos: Watch now!
XPro Styles PAKs require Band-in-a-Box® 2025 or higher and are compatible with ANY package, including the Pro, MegaPAK, UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, and Audiophile Edition.
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