I hear you guys, and i also get it. AS I used MTS much like you use Reaper. It really does boil down to needs. Most of what i mix today is for live playing, not as much for recorded original stuff. I am planning a CD and am gathering material now, so we will see how it goes. Full automation is one area where RB lags a bit. The mixer moves don't get it for me. I did learn recently you can draw in these things although i have not tried it yet.

To me if PG were to add node based automation, and finish the VSTi implementation i could not imagine needing anything more personally. I apologize if anything i said came off harsh, I guess it rankles me when folks say RB is not a full on DAW. Just because it lacks a feature or two that what others call Main stream DAWs do. I feel this way in part because even the so called main street DAWs all lack one or another feature that the competitor has it does not matter which one you look at you can find one of two areas that they need to improve in, and RB is no different, but where it lacks it also excels in other areas. No single DAW does it all, and does it all well.

I also will admit i am a bit touchy on the subject of Reaper. It seems that Reaper followers are almost rabid over that product, and every forum you visit has some one pushing Reaper as the holy grail of DAWs. It is a good one, but it still lags behind the biggies in some areas. It is growing rapidly though. Secondly it never worked well on my system, and it crashed a lot.

Anyway, like Mr Dan said "your mileage may vary" to each there own, we all get to choose what we want in this arena.

HP Win 11 12 gig ram, Mac mini Sonoma with 16 gig of ram, BiaB 2025, Realband, Reaper 7, Harrison Mixbus 9 32c , Melodyne 5 editor, Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL, Presonus control app.