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My friend Jim has severe cerebral palsy. I had a very hard time understanding him before I came down with the profound deafness. We facebook about his motorized scooter and not being able to go out, my limitation that way so any ice and I stay in unless I have help. We discuss stuff like oreo cookies being smaller and ice cream getting whipped so it weighs half. My sister out west keeps me abreast of my nieces soccer, her son's construction job and the weather on the left coast. My overseas friends chirp in. My daughter posts something before work for her English fiancé.
My band has a facebook account and there are photos and posters. I guess in the old days someone could have found out who was in the band and gone to their house and ripped them off. Not much of that going on here.
It's what it is. And how you use it. Jim couldn't say motorized scooter so 20 percent could understand it. But he gets the typing done with a big old keyboard and lots of patience. I have lost 80 percent of my voice and I moved the printer upstairs so i can have conversations with my wife. Good thing for those typing classes in high school. I should have paid more attention to compound interest and I'd have cash, though I wouldn't be as rich as I am 'cause no one is after my money, they just hang out with me for my good looks.
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Sometimes I delete all my info. Sometimes I enter absurd stuff. Never do I put in the real thing. Once my jobs was president of the US, later a fry cook. I've been a double-naught spy and lived on all continents. I figure FB sells this info so I do my part to make it garbage.
For them as just has to know my demographics--for no reason whatsoever--I'm a 91-year-old Uzbekh woman who lives at 123 Noyb Street in Anytown, GA. NOYB = "None o' yo' bidness." I'll have to work on the occupational thing. I've always wanted to be a brain surgeon!
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He who Facebooks loses seems to be more the point. Too many intrusions for me.
Plus, stuff like that ex-boss' wife thing with Flatpicker makes me wonder how much they are sharing, whether I wanted it or not.
Then keeping up with the mundane posts, keeping an eye on the privacy changes .. I chose not to participate. Give me a call, a PM or an email and I'm there. FB removes 'personal communication' and makes things 'herd communication'.
Why send someone to my FB page to see what anybody else wants to say about me (or what their dog did), when I can send them to my website to see how I present myself?
Two weeks ago we were at my grandmother's funeral and my parents house got broken into. Coincidence? I think not. Did they see it in the obits, or FB? FB crowd has much more likely chance of knowing where their house was than some random person reading the obits... locations were not given. Friend of a friend of a friend and all that.
Privacy; protect it. It's hard enough as it is.
Just my explanation of why you won't find me there.
These are all the reasons I'll inevitably delete my account once again.I just unfriended a bunch of friends.
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Is the ultimate goal to be friends with every human on the planet?
Seems to be. He who dies with the most friends wins ???  
I thought it was the most toys?
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I closed my account once. Not just quit logging on - closed it. A few weeks later I opened it anew. Most of the friends I had before, were automatically still my friends. Seems FB really doesn't delete your account even if you close it.
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rubberball, you are right. FB doesn't delete your account when you close it. You have to jump through some hoops to get it deleted - do a google search. I signed up last year for about a day and decided it wasn't for me. I don't remember exactly what I had to do now but I did get mine deleted.
It's nice to know I'm not the only one on the planet not on FB. LOL.
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Yes, the directions (well-hidden) to delete an account are different from deactivating it, or at least they were when I looked at this issue a year ago.
In my area, Facebook has become the best way to advertise a gig.
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In my area, Facebook has become the best way to advertise a gig.
That's the reason I have it.
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In my area, Facebook has become the best way to advertise a gig.
There are some venues, in this area, that require bands to have a website and FB site to be booked. Clubs, today, expect you to have your own following & to bring them with you.
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We had an email list, gathered from our website, of a few hundred people. This usually accounted for showing our following and crowd anticipation.
Requiring FB for a gig? That surprises me. They probably don't care if you are in the union, but want a FB name ...
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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As a 40-year union member, I can tell you that being in the union has often become a disadvantage. I'm hoping the newly elected AFM leadership can turn this around.
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FB is definately the place to be now - why I don't get but you have to do what you have to do to keep working and/or promote yourself. Learning to use and keeping up with all these social networking sites including FB is just so time consuming. Do you guys do it yourself or enlist someone else for help? John, this is a very interesting topic. 
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You're right, Josie; this topic is something musicians need to revisit regularly, since so much changes quickly. Even the Facebook settings I am comfortable with can get 'flipped' somehow and periodically without warning, the site cannot be trusted. That was nicely discussed here.
My various music sites are probably not typical because I was a comp. sci. prof and always do all my own programming, if it's allowed. Before Facebook, I had a really nice MySpace page that was highly customized (and not by one of their ugly templates, either). At the end of 2010, MySpace "standardized" the look of their pages, overwriting and destroying much of my work. Thanks for that. So, I modified it to be minimal and left it, probably never to return. I rarely go to MySpace anymore, even though MySpace always was better for musicians and audio file promos than Facebook. Facebook by comparison is extremely limited in what you can customize.
No matter what the site - MySpace, Facebook, SonicBids, SoundClick, LinkedIn, YouTube, AFM Go Pro, NuMuBu, Reverbnation, etc. etc. - my goal is to have a minimal presence and steer traffic to my own website, which I can control.
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One company I do web work for has an employee that does articles and social networking for the company; facebooking all day long <grin> I can say it HAS generated a few jobs for them, but nowhere near as much as other sources. It all adds up I guess.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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Requiring FB for a gig? That surprises me. They probably don't care if you are in the union, but want a FB name ...
Like Matt, I spent many years in the union. It's almost non-existent anymore.
Most of the musicians around here aren't even aware that there was a union!
I use EVERYTHING at my disposal to advertise. FB, myspace etc., is free advertising that works 24/7. Just finding 1 more person is worth it, each time it happens.
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... an employee that does ... facebooking all day long
Good scenario for a horror movie?
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Good scenario for a horror movie?
Especially if it has a "Big Brother" theme to it.
If Facebook removed the "creep" factor of linking you to people when it has NO data provided by either person in order to establish a link, I would think it was a good thing.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but there's no doubt in my mind that Facebook is using something far beyond what they publicly acknowledge to establish these these links.
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If you join facebook, make sure you give someone trusted your password. A former friend of mine died a year ago. Tragically he was a good friend at one point, but got into a spiral. Separated, then lost his job, his legacy money ran out, and so did his time.
But my daughter knows his daughter on facebook. He's my age. And for some reason once a week his face comes up with the suggestion that I 'friend' him. He can't reply. I wish there was a way to 'freeze' him out, for sometimes I think I should have tried to do more to help. I made several attempts at that but he had weakened to the point of no return. Sad.
We have no organization in common, except one men's club no one knows about. I've never published anything to connect me to that thing. Club had no name. Cigars and tuxes, once a month. 2 single malts, and a cigar. We had no executive, no rules. I don't get it.
My wife is to post a notice when I go, put a mail notice to return emails, and a week after kill my facebook.
I'd like to figure out a way for someone to put my ashes in the soup of The Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition. He can bite me. (For the yanks that means the head of our Democratic Party.)
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"No matter what the site - MySpace, Facebook, SonicBids, SoundClick, LinkedIn, YouTube, AFM Go Pro, NuMuBu, Reverbnation, etc. etc. - my goal is to have a minimal presence and steer traffic to my own website, which I can control."
Matt, totally agree. That's exactly the reason I decided to put up my own site. It's been up now since November of 2010 and I am getting a fair amount of traffic on it.
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I trust that I'm not too far off subject, but: I goggled a place under "medical supplies" and ordered an abdominal compression belt. Now I'm getting email offers for a scooter and other mobility equipment. Coincidence? I don't think so.  Don S.
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