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Archtop (Super 400)
Smoother...more mellow sound would be much less intrusive on the soloist and easy to over...I really like it!
Ken
Blessings!
Ken Hicks
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oops!...meant "easy to play over" ...Ha!
Blessings!
Ken Hicks
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I also loved the tone of the archtop, but it does not sound as clear as the solid body. I'm not a guitarist, so I have no idea why that would be. It's not just the volume of the recording, either: the first guitar was louder than the second (which would normally make it sound "better" just for that reason, and yet everyone likes the second).
Were these two recorded the same way? If you can record the tone of the second but get the clarity of the first recording, I would prefer that.
I am a guitar player but I also ditto the "not as clear." While my initial reaction before even hearing was that the archtop would/should have been the clear cut winner for the proposed use. However, now my question is, given what I heard, would it actually support a singer/sax or muddy them up (if recorded exactly as this MP3 sounds)?
Which leads to Matt’s other question - especially for electric “git fiddles” in terms of not only how recorded but, and again for the intended use, I would also ask through what type amp?
Since I know you have access to some really good performing jazz guitarists I will not presume to name any amps - just that they are capable of big clear sound, warm but not bassy (the archtop doesn’t need any added boominess).
PS – any reason we can’t have BOTH guitars (some tunes scream for "earth tone" archtop - others call for blue sky clarity of the roadster.
In any case - can't wait next batch of RT's
Larry
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Archtop, without a doubt.
Cut the basses a bit,though.
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I like solid guitars better for live use ,no chance of feed back . And if you turn the tone knob you can get about that same mud tone as an Archtop. You can't get any of the solid body single coil pickup's bell tone sounds from an Archtop. I have owned a lot of guitars over the last 45 years of playing ,but no Archtop has ever won me over with sound. But opinions are just that ,so why not have both so everybody is happy . I have played a Strat for the last 20 years.
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Archtop all the way Peter.
More bottom and sweeter also as one goes up the neck.
Thanks for asking.
Happy Sounds
Timothy Kelly
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Carlos, love your playin'...but Super 400 really does it...and nobody does it better that Wes did on his... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5ReB5-8cDs  
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I won't vote. I can't tell you anything about a guitar except according to my pal Freddie the Cree Indian from Moose River, if you bust it just right it makes an ok canoe paddle.
I do know some plug in and some don't and some didn't want to but then got plugged in but look like the ones that don't. Get plugged in I mean.
I enjoy the ones that do backup for me in the realstyles where I get just a bass, guitar and drums and himself on piano so.
Very well done.
I guess this is the start of a trend. Soon they will ask which accordion you like better. Maybe buy Furry Graham plane tickets to Tennessee so he can waltz about.
John Conley
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Carlos, love your playin'...but Super 400 really does it...and nobody does it better that Wes did on his...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5ReB5-8cDs
Thanks Mike, my choice was Super 400 too, I love it, without a doubt it is not possible to match such majestic tone (or any other real archtop jazz box) with a mass of solid wood, plastic and light strings like my Les Paul. Just I did put the audio example in order to demonstrate my approach to a jazzy sound with a solid body elec. guitar
Right now the only archtop I own is a Epiphone Joe Pass Emperor MKII, a nice guitar for the money, it is a little smaller than a full sized jazz box. I like it because it sound 70% archtop - 30% electric, if you want to hear it check this smooth jazz jam I recorded with my Joe Pass, maybe a little near of a Gibson D175, but nothing to do with a super 400 , L5 etc of course! just a more pop bright "archtop" sound I think.
Carlos
Gabriel Arellano,
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I'm not a guitar player as you all know but I know what I like: Archtop Super 400. No to say that the first one is not good too.
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Grah Jive Talk
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Cat amongst pigeons - I like the roadstar guitar - I like its slightly more open, coarser sound, the fuzz on the chords is nice.
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