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Using MIDI styles only, how to force BIAB v2011 Build 314 to play a piano 8-beat pattern on bars #2 and #3 or on bars #4 and #5 of a song, instead of two instances of 4-beat patterns ? Placed on bars #1 and #2 or on bars #3 and #4, a 8-beat pattern is well played and that is OK. Test can be done with the style clouds.sty for ex.


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If there is no chord in bar 3, bar 2 should play an 8 pattern. So if your song is:

C| |F| |C|F|C

Bars 1/2 and 3/4 should play 8 beat patterns, 5/6 will play 4

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No, the chords of the song are following :
|C|F| |G|...
A 2-bar pattern should be played on bar#2, on F chord in the above example.


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I was using those chords as an example.

I tested your progression using CLOUDS and ran into the same issue. It seems like if the 8 beat pattern starts on bars 1 or 3 (odd), it plays correctly. However, on bars 2 or 4 (even) it does not. I tried some other styles and had the same problem. It must be something in the algorithm.

From the FAQs:

...A 2 bar pattern gets played if there is only 1 chord at the beginning of 2 bars. A 1 beat pattern is chosen if there are more than 2 chords close together in a given bar...

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Yes, that is intentional. Since it starts counting from the last part marker, you could put a part marker on bar 2, and then it should give the desired result.


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Peter,

Thanks for your help.
I'm not sure to understand the musical reality of the rule. That means a 2-bar pattern can't be played on bars# 2, 4, etc , since it need to start just after a part marker.
Adding a part marker did the trick, but it adds a fill pattern for the bar just before the part marker, and in most casess, the fill pattern is not wanted...
In my progression |C|F| |G7|, I don't need to get a fill during the 1st bar (C chord)...The way to go on should be to be able to put a part marker and to decide to activate or not the fill...That would a 'pseudo part marker'.


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The way to go on should be to be able to put a part marker and to decide to activate or not the fill...That would a 'pseudo part marker'.




I know that I and others have requested this before. It would be nice to be able to just right click on the part marker and choose fill or not. Obviously, there should be a user settable default setting, as well.

You might want to add your voice to the wish list.


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Yes, I was knowing your request about part markers/fills, but not for the same reasons. Anyway, this new feature would be a must for our songs arrangements in BIAB.


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Adding a part marker did the trick, but it adds a fill pattern for the bar just before the part marker,




What if you freeze the drums before you put in the extra part markers?

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