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I've recorded a simple country song with 4 midi tracks and 1 audio track and have it saved as a .seq file. I would like to render it to MP3 using only Real Band. Possible???
I've read the HELP file quite a bit and it indicates that I should be able to get there via: Render - Merge Audio and DXi Tracks to Compressed File. But the resulting dialog box doesn't give me the option of choosing a compressed file, only a WAV file. In fact I get the same dialog box as I get from: Render - Merge Audio and DXi Tracks to Stereo Wave File. From the third render option I can get only a WMA file.
I'm stumped. Any ideas for me??
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Frank
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So you go to Render Merge all tracks to compressed file, it will then save it to a temporary wav file first then it will bring up a window "Please select audio output format" and you should have mp3 format option. Lame MP3 Codec installer: http://sourceforge.net/projects/lameinstall/files/
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I don't have Win7 but if it is like any other Microsoft OS, they won't include a decent MP3 encoder. For obvious reasons, they want you to use WMA. Unless you want to mess with trying to install a better MP3 encoder within Windows, you may want to output your song to a WAV file and then use any number of WAV to MP3 converters available. Many people here use Audacity but you still need to install an MP3 encoder. If you choose this, HERE are the instructions for doing the one-time procedure. Any problems you have converting can probably easily be answered here. Some media players have this ability. My choice is Foobar2000 found HERE. Stick with the LAME encoder. Open-sourced and well supported. If you don't want to learn Audacity, the LAME website has plenty of links to front-end programs to help you with the conversion. Their site is HERE. Good luck
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Hi musocity
There's my problem. When I merge to a compressed file, I don't get that option. All I can do is create a WAVE file. You provided a link to "lame". Is that a hint that I should install from that link then try again?
Frank
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Yes if you don't get the window or all the bitrate options.
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Hello Rachael
Thanks for the reply. I was hoping to get by with only Real Band but I guess not. I have a program called Switch which works OK for MP3 encoding. I've also downloaded the lame installer but haven't had time to look at it yet. I'm no computer expert so I expect to struggle somewhat but maybe now I know that RB won't do it all by itself!!
Frank
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That's it, musocity. Wrong window and no bit rate options, just WAVE. Sure wish I knew why it works for you but not for me.
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Hi Frank,
When you install Lame, you will need to copy the lame_enc.dll file into the c:\Realband directory.
Once the above .dll is located in the Realband folder, start up Realband, load the song, choose "Merge audio and DXi tracks to compressed file" and the click ok. At this stage, the only option available is the WAV format. Once that file is created, though, Lame will kick in and you'll get a new window that offers the option to convert to mp3. Simply select the bitrate that you want from the many available and click ok. (At least that's how it works for me.)
To convert to mp3s, Realband needs an mp3 encoder added to it's directory because it doesn't ship with such an encoder. (By the way, Lame is free. Always a great price!)
All the best,
Noel
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Wrong window and no bit rate options, just WAVE. Sure wish I knew why it works for you but not for me
That's the way it's supposed to work Frank. When the average user wants to merge all the tracks to an audio file they want a WAV file first because that's what you would use to burn it to a CD to give or sell to all your friends so naturally the program will ask you where you want that file stored. In my case all the final mix WAV's are stored in a "Master Mix" directory. Creating a compressed file either WMA or MP3 is the second step.
Bob
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Thanks Bob. I guess I understand that part of it. It's that second step that has me stymied. I hoped to be able to do it within RB as we did in BB but I guess not. Although it seems that other knowledgeable folks are able to make it work. I'm just not smart enough to figure it out.
Frank
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Hi Noel96
I've tried all that and just can't make it work. Not smart enough, I guess. I've got to where it seems to try to convert but I get the message "Driver cannot do the requested conversion", then some confused stuff, then it trys to play the MP3 version with zero bits.
Guess I'll give up
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Frank
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I am regretting saying this ..
On Win 7 here, the program acts as described by the original poster.
I get a wav file window also. This isn't 'normal' to a user.
Here's what happens ...
The program has always done the mixdown in high-quality audo wav format. Then it asked what format you wanted it written in and did the conversion using whatever codec was installed in the system. Now it opens a window for a wave file then asks about the conversion afterwards. It is adding a few steps in Win7. PLUS it makes a file (and leaves it) with the wav extension that is 0kb in size (but takes resources to keep the non-existent file in memory and index).
I think this is a small bug in the program for Win7 that was missed in Beta.
sorry, my fault
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Go to Control Panel > Users > Change User Account Control Settings
Slide the setting down to "Never Notify"
Restart and try.
Because it runs "STOM^.exe" in the RB folder that is an exe file
that 7 will block, if that works set UAC to the first one up,
then it should bring up the dialog box "Do you want to allow STOM^.exe"
click yes.
I'm using it on 7 64bit
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I get STOM to run, but it does do the extra step that OP described also. ... and leaves the empty wav file behind.
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
Make your sound your own!
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Just curious, rharv
How is it your fault?
Frank
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musocity, I tried your suggestions about user accounts, but no change. Actually I was earlier getting the question about running STOM^.exe and I always clicked YES but without success. I'm no longer getting that option.
Based on other input, I checked and found that lame_enc.dll is also included in C:\Windows\System32 (FWIW).
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You're plenty smart enough, Frank. This stuff makes almost everbody's eyes glaze over including mine. I am just now switching over from my tried and true but old P4 XP machine to my new super hot Athlon 6 core running Win 7 64 bit. I did not know about that difference when rendering under Win 7, I haven't set up my audio stuff yet, still working on my household computer things and even that is messing with me but I'm getting there. All you can do is keep plugging away and ask questions here. This is the most helpful musicians forum on the net. A big thing to always keep at the top of your thoughts as you work through this is we are using highly specialized programs that the big computer makers could care less about. Semi pro or pro audio production using a PC is a very small percentage of the PC market and while it will work just fine and you will produce great sounding music, you're basically on your own. We get no support at all from PC makers. You have to turn yourself into a computer nerd and I'm learning that while I'm a pretty good XP nerd, I have a lot to learn about Win 7. Oh, and it's always Rharv's fault, didn't you know that?  Bob
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Just curious, rharv
How is it your fault?
Frank
I get blamed for everything around here.
running joke (I think)
I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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rharv, do you get blamed for the good stuff also?? That wouldn't be so bad!
Interesting to me, I found STOM^.exe in the RB folder, clicked on it and got the small dialog box that asked about desired output audio format with MP3 as an option.
I also downloaded a .gz version of LAME and unzipped it with WinZip to my Downloads folder. So now I've got a file "lame-3.98.4.tar" that I don't know what to do with. Nothing on my computer wants to open it and my reviews on the web for tar information haven't helped much.
This all very new to me!!
Bob
Thanks for your thoughts. I'm pretty nerdy in some ways but not regarding computers. And I'm older than dirt which doesn't help at all when it comes to learning new things (old dog and new tricks?).
Frank
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