Do you have an imported MIDI file in some songs, where it might have its own patches?

About the "curious issue in the "+" dialog", yes, I've seen that in the other Roland patch maps. Whoever made and named the patches, or alternatively, whoever made the patch map, chose to call certain patches member of a group a family. Some make sense; many do not.

My alternative: I edited a copy of the patch map to copy those instruments I use all the time to my own groupings at the top of the patch map. It's just a text file, and it's OK to have a particular patch appear more than once in the file. With mine set up in groups named Acoustic, Electric, and Horns, I can almost always find the patch I want at the top of the list.


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