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Know this has been asked before but how do you export or retain the beautiful sound from the Roland SD 50 after passing it through BIAB?
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Larry
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When you're working with a hardware synth you can't do a direct render. That is only available with a software DXi or VSTi synth. Hardware has to be recorded the old fashioned way in real time by taking the output from your SD-50 and either routing it to an external recorder or back into your computer using your soundcard inputs. In this scenario your computer is outputting midi and taking back audio from your Roland. You use a recording program like Real Band to take that audio input and record it to a stereo audio track. Just arm the track and let it play, if it's a five minute song then it will take five minutes. Once it's recorded into RB you have to convert it to a wav file and from there export it to a CD burner or compress it down to an MP3 or WMV file and export that to a CD, your phone, another player or send it as an email attachment.
Bob
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I have the SD-50. Refer to page 59 in the Roland SD-50 Owner Manual (black manual). Turn on the "TG to Computer" function. This will loop the audio output of the tone generator back up the USB cable to the PC. You then have both the MIDI and Audio available to render with the BIAB software.
I haven't actually tried this yet, but will do so in the near future. I'm still a little confused about rendering with the BIAB 2011 software.
Let us know how this works out.
Dave R
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I'm still a little confused about rendering with the BIAB 2011 software.
Reread what I just posted Dave. Rendering is a software synth function, not hardware. And, the synth must be either a DXi or a VSTi. Some softsynths run as a standalone app and you can't render with one of those either. It must be set up as a DXi/VSTi plugin. Then the rendering works. The advantage is a 5 minute song can render in 15-20 seconds or so depending on how fast your PC is. The disadvantage is a cheap softsynth won't sound anywhere as good as a SD-50. The higher end softsynths sound great but you're talking several hundred bucks up to a thousand or more. If you're thinking about spending $3-400 anyway then the question becomes do you want the convenience of keeping it all in your computer but you have to be a geek to learn how to use it or use hardware but you have a brick on your desk with cables running around and you have to record your finished songs in real time rather than a fast 20 second render.
Bob
Biab/RB latest build, Win 11 Pro, Ryzen 5 5600 G, 512 Gig SSD, 16 Gigs Ram, Steinberg UR22 MkII, Roland Sonic Cell, Kurzweil PC3, Hammond SK1, Korg PA3XPro, Garritan JABB, Hypercanvas, Sampletank 3, more.
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This one is easy. Just record the output of the SD50. This can be accomplished any way you want. Also, you have it backwards. The sound passes through the SD50 lastly (BIAB to SD50), and results in the finished product at the headphone jack. This question is silly......really LOL BTW, I own the SD50 and it is the best portable synth Roland has made yet. It even runs on batteries: It is USB powered, an Audio interface, plays MP3's and Midi files, is small and light, and will even loopback (apparently, as the previous poster said, and something I also haven't tried). Did I mention it sounds great?  Kudos to them
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I agree. he only way to record it is "the old fashioned way in real time by taking the output from your SD-50 and either routing it to an external recorder or back into your computer using your soundcard inputs..." I do the same with KETRON SD2.
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BIAB/RB 2015 UltraPAK + Ketron SD2
Windows 7/64 Intel i5 3550 PC, Tascam USB144MKII
Behringer X1204 Mixer
Bose Companion 3 and/or L1 II w/T1 + SM58 MIC
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