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I ended up getting TC-Helicon Voice Tone Harmony G-XT. The quality of the vocal effects & harmonies is incredible. Nothing like the old Digitech I had. No robotic or grainy sounds.Even acapella it's great.I'm totally blown away!!!! Driving the guitar input using a separate track of acoustic guitar from the built in sound card works perfectly. I decided on this unit over the M because:
1. I have the flexibility of having the harmonies where & when I want 'cause I have to push the button.
2. I can turn down the outs from the Audigy card and blend the guitar input track with vocals including the effects and play an "acoustic" solo with just Bass, acoustic & vocals. This will add jobs for me.
3. A USB connection with and editor/librarian for creating/saving effects presets and for firmware updates.
This unit can be had at Same Day Music for $229 & free shipping.
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Congrats!
I haven't found anything yet that comes close to TC Helicons harmonies. The EQ and voice sweetening isn't bad either. I am sure you will have many good times with your pedal. The only problem is that it is kind of addictive and when you work on older songs you start thinking about I wonder what would happen if ...........
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Sounds sweet John, go forth and harmonize!!
Imagine running a sweet realtracks guitar track into that dog and singing along with it.
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Sounds sweet John, go forth and harmonize!!
Imagine running a sweet realtracks guitar track into that dog and singing along with it.
Yes the nice thing about it is I can do that and have all of the effects and mixing take place and then into the vocal channel of my mixer.Play bass & sing. Some of the places around here only want an acoustic sound for there entertainment. Pa is OK of course.I can even just put the acoustic track on a CD & run it through. Gives me a nice compact acoustic set-up.
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I ended up getting TC-Helicon Voice Tone Harmony G-XT. The quality of the vocal effects & harmonies is incredible. ..... No robotic or grainy sounds.Even acapella it's great.I'm totally blown away!!!! Driving the guitar input using a separate track of acoustic guitar from the built in sound card works perfectly. I decided on this unit over the M because:
1. I have the flexibility of having the harmonies where & when I want 'cause I have to push the button.
2. I can turn down the outs from the Audigy card and blend the guitar input track with vocals including the effects and play an "acoustic" solo with just Bass, acoustic & vocals. This will add jobs for me.
3. A USB connection with and editor/librarian for creating/saving effects presets and for firmware updates.
This unit can be had at Same Day Music for $229 & free shipping.
Oh boy! now you got me thinkin...
Today is the big town garage sale so time to haul all my old music junk from years gone by which is gathering dust in my closet out to the driveway and see if I can come up with some quick cash. 
anyone want a 4 track Tascam tape recorder from 1986? While priceless in memories of my first recordings, I'm looking for $5 with the BIAB Forum discount, but will take offers. 
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I'm gonna take it for a test drive tonight at the gig.
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It was great. Didn't take much setup to get it right.The sound over a PA is fantastic as are the effects. Did take a little getting used to 3 voices at times.
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It was great. Didn't take much setup to get it right.The sound over a PA is fantastic as are the effects. Did take a little getting used to 3 voices at times.
good to hear.
I have been listening to lots of on-line demos and it does sound very interesting to me. Unfortunately, I made only ~$75 in the big garage sale  . I figure I paid at least $1200 - $1500 for the gear i sold -alhough I have to admit it was of no real value to me for all the years I had been storing it. A single guy bought it all and he was very pleased.
But $75 is a little short of a new vocal processor 
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John congrats. ` I bought the GXT harmonizer last week (price in DK equals $360 though!  ) it's really incredible - the harmonizer, not the DK price... John I have a little problem when I record, or play back over the PA system for that matter, that is the guitar sound bleed through into the mic. This cause the guitar sound to be harmonized as well, sounds a bit like distortion. Reason may be I use a condenser mic, as the condensers are more sensitive. Could you offer any advice, would a dynamic mic. be the answer. Thanks Jan
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@John: Congratulations! Good to read the gig went well. You obviously made a good decision buying the GXT  @Jan: The GXT has a gate built in, but unfortunately this can only be set to on or off (default setting = on). You'll have to do something with your mic. What kind of pattern does your mic have? Try using a cardioid type microphone. tilt it up just a bit so that it faces your mouth and is pointed away a bit from your guitar. Condenser mics are great, but TC advices to use dynamic mics with their harmonizers. Try the good old SM58, that one should do well. For more information regarding your TC-effects, you can also visit the VoiceCouncil Forum
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Thanks Mike. Actually, I have considered the SM 58 for home studio use, replacing my condenser. I think it's called GAS, right Jan
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Jan,
For (home)studio use you could try recording the vocals dry with your condenser mic. After recording you can send the vocal track to your GXT. Be careful not to drive the GXT too hot, since it is a microphone-level input and you feed it at line-level. Record the 100% wet signal from the GXT to another track. This way you have much more control over your effects/harmonies and you don't have to deal with bleed-issues.
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Mike.
Thanks for feed back.
That would be the optimal way, however I tried that, but with a bad result. Problem is - as you mentioned - that the input signal tend to be too hot through the mic port, and in addition you need to feed in a guitar input at the same time. I believe it can be done, I just haven't been able to obtain an acceptable result so far.
I recall you have VoiceLive2 (?), is that the way you do it?
Jan
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That is the exact reason i prefer the midi drive harm units. they do not have to rely on the guitar signal, and can be set to run off the midi alone and therefore not bleed over and confusion. I originally bought the GT version and sent it back cause it seemed to get confused.
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I originally bought the GT version and sent it back cause it seemed to get confused.
Wow don't tell my wife. The doc said it was chemo fog, but heck if she sends me back I'll have somewhere new to be, other than here, which can be new at times. I think she's only keeping me because I cook and clean and am deaf so she can snore.
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That is the exact reason i prefer the midi drive harm units. they do not have to rely on the guitar signal, and can be set to run off the midi alone and therefore not bleed over and confusion. ...
OK, tell me more about this. Since I always have BIAB in my gig is there a unit (or version of this G XT) which would generate my vocal harmonies off of the chords from BIAB?
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Yes.
I got the Voicelive from PGmusic (who resell TcHelicon stuff). The VoiceLive2 came out about an hour later lol.
I have the Opts. Prefs. Output channel in Band in a Box set so ch 5 sends chords to the box for harmony.
I then set the soloist channel to 5.
At the point I want a harmony I press F5 and set it in the soloist channel. So even though 25 is Nylon Guitar it triggers Preset 25 on the box. Works great. I have one channel I set to have the harmonies off and the voice thickened, and you can set any of them to pitch correct or not. So you can change during the song. Or in the case of the VoiceLive you can hit the pedal and mute the harmony.
Too bad radiation treatments have wrecked my voice. The docs think it might get better. I'm messing now playing horns and stuff through it. And the wife's flute turns in to 3. Kinda cool.
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Jan,
I had answered your question this AM it was as Mike said. I went to post it and PG site went down. Just got back on.
If I could have afforded it I would have gotten the Voice Live 2 for all of it's flexibility. The GXT is the same harmonizer though so went with it. It also has more features then the M. I didn't cre so much for the Voiceworks. All three in the same price range. With BIAB you will need a midi unit to get the chords. I use RealBand so sending a silent guitar track to the guitar input is a cinch.It never missed a chord. Even if there were more then 1 chord change in a measure. Using a RT acoustic guitar is ideal for this thing as it's very straight ahead and steady. Unlike if you're playing it yourself.
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Thanks John.
Yes I believe I can make it work. I'm using Sonar for the final mix, just need to figure out how it works, sending the guitar track to GXT.
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If I could have afforded it I would have gotten the Voice Live 2 for all of it's flexibility.
Ya, that is definitely out of my limited price range. 
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With BIAB you will need a midi unit to get the chords. I use RealBand so sending a silent guitar track to the guitar input is a cinch.It never missed a chord. Even if there were more then 1 chord change in a measure. Using a RT acoustic guitar is ideal for this thing as it's very straight ahead and steady.
I need to understand this part.
Are you saying with RB you can route a RT guitar part to use for setting harmonies? But this can not be done from BIAB? What do you mean when you say that BIAB would need a midi unit to get the chords. Is the porblem with the routing in BIAB, which is better done in RB?
As you know I use BIAB for live shows but this could be the decider to switch to RB for live gigs.
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